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  1. harper barker | September 30, 2010 at 11:15 am |

    Wow – so, the muslims are gonna bury me with a shroud? Hateful

    You talk about not judging someone unfairly and yet you assume I wear my clothes to ‘displease my lord’. Hypocritical

    People ‘like you’ just need to pack it up and move to a country where you fit in, pick any muslim country. Certainly you will be happier there. That way your hate and hypocrisy won’t be such a burden for you to bear.

    Oh and by the way, I do feel sorry for muslim women.

    • Calm down Harper..lol. I apologize if this offended you but I wrote this after a Muslim girl harshly criticized those who CHOOSE to wear the veil. I wrote it in their defense and nothing more. As for the “shroud” comment, what I am trying to portray is that why are such girls running after fashion so blindly when at the end of the day your going to be buried in a shroud without makeup or fashion clothes. We the Muslims bury both men AND women in a plain white shroud.

      Anyway, so I apologize if this offended you. You can probably tell from the poem that I was very angry at those women who were basically picking on veiled women.

      As for feeling sorry for Muslim women, then I don’t have to defend that because they already are proud of it. Cheers 🙂

  2. My concern is, is there really any room for reforms in Islam when it has been declared complete by Allah? Specially when the interpretations become so conflicting and sometimes downright silly? I’m a muslims myself.. so this is not meant to criticize. I’m truly worried! People now have more differences with each other than they had ever before, owing to the myriad explanations out there.

  3. I would also add:

    8. Sees everything as a win-lose scenario. Rather than sharing information and coming to a middle ground, an ignorant person will turn see a debate as a fight – and try to “win” by any means necessary, instead of recognising the debate for the mental knowledge workout that it really is.

  4. excellent, thanks for this

  5. I appreciate all these nice safe conferences and conversations, but I need to see more action. I want to see a unified front of major Muslim clerics from all over the world come together to agree on dogma clarifications, and have all the lesser clerics spread this message to the masses. Make it clear that Muslims who act violently in the name of Allah are ‘infidels’ and are to be ostracized.

  6. Jazzak Allahu Khayr for this reminder.

    – Amir Mustafa

  7. Differences have always existed and will always exist, even conflicting opinions, just take a look at the positions of the 4 madhabs on various issues and even within the madhabs there are different positions. These scholars and the schools of thought were making things up themselves and adding it to the complete deen as you suggest – the issue is not differences but how to deal with them. Naturally with time situations change, mindsets change etc so why would new scholars not have different positions or views on an issue?

  8. please give more reasons in short pointers. there are alot of verses reduce them and give short reasons in pointers

  9. 16:82 But if they turn away from you, your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message

    4:79-80 Say: ‘Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that We have sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper.”

    17:53-54 And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner. Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe…. Hence, we have not sent you with power to determine their Faith

    24.54. Say: “Obey God, and obey the Messenger, but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger’s duty is only to preach the clear (Message).

    88:21 22; And so, exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe.

    42:6 48 And whoso takes for patrons others besides God, over them does God keep a watch. Mark, you are not a keeper over them. But if they turn aside from you (do not get disheartened), for We have not sent you to be a keeper over them; your task is but to preach

    64:12 Obey God then and obey the Messenger, but if you turn away (no blame shall attach to our Messenger), for the duty of Our Messenger is just to deliver the message.

    28.55-56 And when they hear vain talk, they turn away there from and say: “To us our deeds, and to you yours; peace be to you: we seek not the ignorant,” It is true thou wilt not be able to guide whom thou lovest; but God guides those whom He will and He knows best those who receive guidance

    39:41 Assuredly, We have sent down the Book to you in right form for the good of man. Whoso guided himself by it does so to his own advantage, and whoso turns away from it does so at his own loss. You certainly are not their keeper.

    67:25 26 And they ask, “When shall the promise be fulfilled if you speak the Truth?” Say, “The knowledge of it is verily with God alone, and verily I am but a plain warner.”

    As we can clearly see, many of the verses that talks about obeying the prophet also emphasizes the prophet’s limited authority, something that the Islamic sects do not recognize. The ruler to them has the authority to punish people for what they consider sins like drinking alcohol, eating pork, not fasting Ramadan, watching pornos etc.

    The Koran meanwhile focuses on crimes against another like stealing, killing, slandering of women falsely and oppression. It gave the believers the right to fight against those who fight them but not to transgress. It also gave people the right to defend themselves against evictions from their lands. There is no talk about punishing people for something that does not concern somebody else’s right.

    Adultery is the only place where the Koran diverted from this due to the fact that a adultery affects another party. Here the Koran sees adultery as affecting the other partner in a marriage. It’s a betrayal and a breaking of oath. But even then it placed strict standards on that but was lenient when it came to punishing slanders of women. Adultery needs four witnesses but the slander can get punished just from opening his mouth without four witnesses. It’s clear that the verse made it very difficult to implement on adultery but very easy to implement on the slanderer. Further reading of the verse about the Zani and Zania shows us that the issue came up concerning slandering of one of the prophet’s wife presumably. But adultery still affects another party as its a breaking of an oath between a man and a woman and is an act of betrayal.

    The Koran cannot order the prophet to punish people for sins, that God’s job. The Koran gave people the right and freedom to disbelieve let alone sin. Plus how the Koran understands sins is very different than how the sects understand sins.

    In the end the sects had no choice but to abrogate many of these verses, usually invoking the “sword verse”. They claim that many of these verses that gave the prophet limited authority(over those who chose to disobey him) has been abrogated by verse 9-5 or verse 9-29.

    However these verses were about the wars with the pagans, and verse 9-13 and many other verses makes it clear who instigated these battles and why. The Jizya verse (9-29) also was claimed by the sects to be a tax to be paid by non Muslims in an Islamic state for protection. However Jizya never came concerning the Medina community where the prophet and his followers had a community. And only came upon the believers entering of Mecca. Jizya could have easily been compensation for the loss of property and homes that the believers suffered after being forced into exile. The Koran forbade prophets from seeking any form of reward. They can however accept charity on behalf of the believers.

    But the Sunnah claimed otherwise. In it the prophet was ordered to fight the people till they acknowledge monotheism and also in it the prophet ordered the execution of those who apostate. That’s why they abrogated many of the verses that limited his authority. Then they simply transferred that authority to the Muslim ruler by default. The Ridda war story about Abu Bakr is a case study of this. In that story Abu Bakr apparently fought people for not paying Zakat. Now the authority was transferred from God to the prophet to one of his companions. This made it very easy to then transfer that authority to the ruler. This is why you see places where Shariah law is implemented filled with such concepts like searching cars for alcohol or flogging people for watching pornos or not wearing proper attire. None of this should concern anyone but it has become a punishable sin. God only punishes those who did not get caught and punished in this world. The sects claimed that once punished the sin falls away and disappears. You will not find such a concept in the Koran. There God punishes in a million ways and does not need humans to punish for him. I think the sects introduced this conc3ept to make people more accepting of this by making them think its better for them since God’s punishment is more severe. They also introduced stoning the adulterer by claiming the Zina verse in the Koran is concerning fornification and not adultery. They claimed that the verse about stoning was lost and is not included in the Koran but the ruling remains.

    This of course violated not only the freedom aspect of the Koran but also an eye for an eye and a life for a life. In the Koran, any punishment must be reciprocal and proportionate to the crime and it also must be targeted towards the actual perpetrators of the crime and not someone else associated to the criminal as the case with tribal laws that simply targets anyone from that tribe. They broke this by lower the bar for executions. Some Sunni scholars also gave the authority to execute homosexuals and enslave female prisoners and execute male prisoners. Something the Koran forbade. The Koran gave two options for prisoners, either freedom or ransom of some sort. They gave this authority to the ruler. This is all very sad as the taking of someone’s life is no easy matter in the Koran. God should take life and not humans, but if a person takes a life then he lost his right to live, but even then the Koran gave exile from the community as another option for murder especially if the person shows repentance. So an eye for an eye and a tooth for tooth somehow ended up being an eye for an eye lash and a tooth for a jaw.

    To be fair the Sunni orthodoxy rarely practiced some of these laws. We know of no time in history where adulterers were stoned to death. Apostasy was rarely practiced, unlike the Christians in Europe that practiced these laws left and right. So the Sunni jurist knew that some of these laws could be controversial and therefore they tended to avoid them.

    Its very unfortunate the current Islamist in Iran and Sudan and the Salafis in generally never understood why these laws were controversial. But in doing so they exposed much aspect of the sects that people were not aware of. The Sufis provided a convenient cover as they shunned legalism. But even the clerics understood that these laws were controversial. Its not easy in Islam to execute outside of murder. But this wise tradition was broken. That’s very unfortunant as now we see the culture of death has spread among Muslims till Islam became synonymous with violence and killing. Once you lower the bar it spirals out of control.

    One thing is crystal clear from all this. The Koran’s take on human authority and freedom is RADICALLY different than how the Sunni/Shia sects understand it. Therefore the biggest difference between a Koranic state and a Sunni or Shia state will come in the form of the state’s authority over the masses. It is this, more than anything else, that separates the Koran from the Sunnah. That’s why the Abbasids championed the Sunnah over the Mutazilites. The Mutaziltes couldn’t find the ink inthe Koran to give them such draconian authority. The sects did that by first bringing the divine authority from God to prophet, then propet to Caliph (companions) and now that authority is in Omar Al Bashir, Khamenei, Mullah Omar and Al Saud. And that’s very sad.

    • Anti-Koranist | September 17, 2013 at 11:59 am |

      I am not sure where you copy and pasted this from but as usual, the arguments presented by Quranists are extremely weak. It is no wonder that the rest of us vast majority Muslims could care less for it. Whoever wrote this has very elementary understanding of Islamic history and sciences. The article above still holds true and the links/books provided further elaborate on it and defend the TRUE understanding of Islam as it was meant to be WITH the sunnah. Just study your own history, Quranism is influenced by Western non-Muslim academia on Islam (a.k.a. Orientalists). We the Muslims will keep the sunnah, rely on the sunnah, and die for the sunnah.

      • You just ignored his whole essay by saying “he copy pasted it”?
        Woot.

        TRUE understanding as in the understanding of dead imams and such? whereas the quran specifically states that the prophet is a messenger, no more human than any of us, that the ultimate miracle is the Quran. How many hadiths can you find that states our beloved prophet is capable of miracles?

        Hadith also assumes that the sahabah has perfect memory and perfect honor, and a person can be classified sahabah just because he met the prophet once or twice.

        And just the fact that 200years after the death of the prophet, that there is 600000 hadiths in existance and only a small portion is “good” shows how much hadith can be corrupted. This simple fact destroys the argument of “hadiths has been recorded since the death of the prophet”

        • Anti-Koranist | October 9, 2013 at 2:33 pm |

          Hey, if you don’t trust our compilation of “hadiths” then why on earth does your newly formed, western orientalist influenced group trust our compilation of the Qur’an?! It was done by us, the followers of the Qur’an AND Sunnah, and not by your recently formed new cult. Name me ONE compiler in the history of Islam that had anything to do with compiling the Qur’an and passing it down that was NOT a believer of hadiths as well. Make sure to cite your sources! Oh, and don’t give me non-Muslim Western or progressive/modern Muslim sources. We the majority of the ummah do NOT trust them.

          • Now you are just dodging the question. There’s many major differences between how the quran and hadith was compiled. The quran did not need a “popularity contest” to ascertain which verses gets into the final product to name one.
            Was abu hurairah not punished for spreading lies? And that he did not lives lavishly for the rest of his life teaching hadiths? That he did not admit faking a hadith which is still in the sahih compilation?
            Is this the person you pick as a infallible spokesperson for the Prophet?

          • Anti-Koranist | November 9, 2013 at 10:49 am |

            @Fan,

            Qur’an is through mutawaatir. All of its verses are mutawaatir which based on the number of people narrating! There are some verses that didn’t make it because they did not meet the criteria of mutawatir.

            As for Abu Hurayrah, yes we absolutely trust him! And false and fictional stories to discredit him IS NOT going to work. Nice job dodging the obvious question “give me a name of ONE person who compiled the Qur’an but did not believe in hadiths!” We compiled it and you guys didn’t exist at that time. We the 99% majority will CONTINUE to believe in hadith!

      • I would like to reply to the people actively arguing with “Anti-Quranist.” Know that even if you warn them, they will not believe. Whoever argues within the terms of religion is on the wrong path.

        If someone could quote the verse in the Quran I would be grateful. I am procrastinating at the moment and need to get back to work haha.

  10. Alsalamu 3alaikom
    {We have, without doubt, sent down the Reminder [i.e., the Quran]; and We will assuredly guard it [from corruption].} (Al-Hijr 15:9)

    you and the 99% didn’t preserve the Quran …Allah did …

    • thethinkingmuslim | January 14, 2014 at 4:34 pm |

      Wa Salam,

      Through the means of whom? From the chests and hands of whom? Through the means of those who not only preserved the Qur’an, by the Will and Permission of Allah, but hadiths as well. And these same people also believed in the authority of the Sunnah unlike the Qur’anists. Last I checked, the Qur’anists didn’t exist at that time.

      • I hope this answers your question.

        “[Say], “Then is it other than Allah I should seek as judge while it is He who has revealed to you the Book explained in detail?” And those to whom We [previously] gave the Scripture know that it is sent down from your Lord in truth, so never be among the doubters.
        And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing.
        And if you obey most of those upon the earth, they will mislead you from the way of Allah . They follow not except assumption, and they are not but falsifying.

        Quran, Surah An’am Verses 114-116.

        • thethinkingmuslim | April 25, 2014 at 7:56 am |

          Actually, it does not. Read the article again and all of the links related to it. Hadith rejection is a modern phenomenon. Rejecting hadith and accepting Qur’an are contradictory beliefs. It is not possible to accept one and reject the other. Rejecting hadiths casts doubt on the itegrity and reliability of those who preserved them, which in turn, also casts doubt on their preservation of the Qur’an. It cannot be said they preserved the first while failed in the second. Either they reliably preserved both or they failed in both.

          • Bad with rejection can’t be new. There is a hadith which forbids the writing of hadith. Btw if you want the truth on the issue look at what the Quran says about the Jews and where they went wrong, should give you a clue. Sunnis are guilty of the same as Jews. Jews abandoned the Torah in favour of ‘traditions of Moses’, Jesus told them about themselves. Muslims are doing the same thing! I read a different religion in the bible and Quran compared to the Sunni, because the Sunni broke the quranic rules. Quran says lashes, Sunni says death, Allah is merciful, the Sunni is not.

            Seriously the stories are in the Quran for us to learn by: the Jews abandoned their scripture in favour of corrupt oral traditions – it’s exactly what Muslims are doing.

            Do NOT be of those who divide down into sects.

            Unite under Allah alone!

          • The Thinking Muslim | June 25, 2018 at 9:22 am |

            There are some hadiths forbidding writing of hadiths while others encouraging it. Historically, no one has denied the acceptability of hadith as a source of law in addition to the Qur’an. Even the very companions who narrated the hadiths about not writing down hadiths themselves used it as a a source of law. When you combine the various texts together and look historically, it is very easy to conclude that they were just being cautious of the preservation of the Qur’an not that hadiths are irrelevant. No one said this during their times. If you are going to reject hadiths, then you might as well reject history of everything. The methodology put in place to collect hadiths is more complex and rigorous than what was done to collect the history of the world. So if hadiths are unreliable, then even more so is world history.

            Secondly, comparing it with the Jews and Christians is a false equivalence. The Jews in the Qur’an were criticized for purposely changing rulings for material benefit and following desires. There is nothing in the Qur’an about criticizing Jews for following ‘Traditions of Moses’. Please cite the verse where Allah criticizes them for following the ‘Traditions of Moses’.

            We follow hadiths because Allah told us to do so and I have mentioned verses throughout the comments and in the post to show that. In addition, no one among the companions understood Qur’an by itself but used hadiths as well because this is what they were commanded. So sunnis aren’t wrong on this one. The Quranists, who came into existence only in the last century, are.

    • Taavi Yusuf | May 10, 2016 at 12:22 am |

      Thank-you for saying this. Quranists. Submitters. Western Influenced Orientalists Liberals. Whatever. We are all Muslim. No one is trying to “convert” anyone (that I am aware of) to this “modern” way of thinking or looking at our faith. We just happen to be a small sect that believes all of our answers to any of our questions can be found in the perfect jewel, the Holy Quran. La Illaha Il Allahu.

      • Khairul Anwar bin Muhammad Deen | December 4, 2017 at 4:04 am |

        yeah.. no one.. EVEN GOD does not compel anyone to believe.. but ample WARNINGS have been given to us all..

        La illa ha illa ALLAH..

  11. Where there is such situation we should consult the Holy Quran and learn from it. It is one complete guidance for the whole Ummah. Thanks for sharing.

  12. Some of the contradictions may be due to the various sects. We should avoid dividing in sects as the Holy Quran forbid us to do so. The issue of contradictions in Islamic texts may be reduced by unity of whole Ummah. Thanks

  13. @ SUE Alsalamu 3alaikom
    {We have, without doubt, sent down the Reminder [i.e., the Quran]; and We will assuredly guard it [from corruption].} (Al-Hijr 15:9)

    you and the 99% didn’t preserve the Quran …Allah did …

    OK now tell me SUE who told you that AYAH …. if I assume for a moment that you and the Anti HAdiths are right (Na auzu billah), this ayah could have been placed in the quran( Na auzu Billah) . These are the companions and sahabah of Muhammad (S.A.W) that recorded each and every bit of our prophet’s (S.A.W) life and the the way he responded to each stimuli. If you dont believe in HADITH then you can not believe in QURAN … its the AND condition either you will have to believe both or none…. DONT confuse others and Ask Allah to guide you towards the right Path… Iam not saying to believe everything but use your brains and it will be all clear…

    May Allah guide us All towards the right Path !!

  14. Abu Bakarr Fallon | April 12, 2014 at 8:22 pm |

    May Allah reward those are managing in site.

  15. Let me make something clear…. n it’s states the quran came to confirm the teachings of the torah and the gospel…. so if the book differs from the bible in any of the teachings of any of the prophets then that is a falcity…. jesus said let who has no sin cast the first stone but to stone someone two deal or assault them you are breaking one or two commandments…. You can’t accept one and throw the other in the fire…. we have a compilation now to drive the true meaning of what the father has given us to teach…. Two separate between the quran the gospel and the torah is to deny my Father his teaching…. There is only one teacher….. “the path to hell is wide and the road to paradice is narrow”… it applies to all your so called ” separate religions ” when the only thing which differentiates them is the man made traditions accosted to each…

  16. Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

    You realize my brother, if you fail to recognize their kufr as you must, they will gain legitimacy? Quranists follow neither the Quran nor the Sunnah. They are disbelievers NOT Muslims and you NEED to make that very clear. The ONLY people who should be debating them are those who recognize their kufr. Otherwise they will have a platform to debate and a means of gaining legitimacy among Muslims.

  17. May Allah protect this Ummah from them.

  18. Doesn’t your heart shiver when you lie? Mutazilas were anti hadith people and they are from 8th century. Back then there was a ban on hadith books. People were mainly Quran only Muslims. Hence, the golden age came. I am sure now you will come to defend your position by using propaganda generated by traditionalists about the Mutazilas.

    • I’m not sure where you got the information that Mutazilas were anti-hadith. This is not true. In fact they accepted Mutawatir hadiths and even ahaad hadiths with conditions.

      It is also not true that Muslims were Qur’an only Muslims during the golden age. There is not a shred of evidence for this in any of the historical books. The modern anti-hadith movement is a recent phenomenon. The words of the adhaan given before each prayer is proof enough that they were not anti-hadith because the words of adhaan are established through hadiths and NOT Qur’an. The adhaan has been going on since the time of the Noble Messenger (pbuh).

      • Khairul Anwar bin Muhammad Deen | December 4, 2017 at 4:08 am |

        Theres a lot of evidence.. the Quran only Muslim were focused on learning more about the Quran, there mathematics, science, art.. everything..

        Hadiths.. you can find punishment, marrying 6 year old or 9 year old, dipping flies into your drinks, BRANDING peoples EYE with HOT IRON!! crazy stupid hadeeth..

  19. Alhamdulilah,Allah alone is Our Helper and to whom we call. I would also like to clear up the misconception that all indians worship graves or saints. This is completely false for the majority.

  20. “His Image” means representation to the attribute of God.
    For humans are given specialty of great mind to create something on earth resembling the Creator of Universe, given a great mind to allow them to rule on earth resembling the Ruler of Universe.

    His Image/ His Word/ His Spirit does not mean God. The Israelites do not misinterpret those figurative words.
    However when Romans who are quite used to human Gods that have human appearance who live in heaven e.g Zeus , that can impregnate earthling humans to produce son of gods e.g Hercules etc. When they read Israelite scriptures, they misinterpret many verses likening the god of Israel to their belief.

  21. Salam
    Is this debate still active? I may have some points that I would love to share.
    Salam

    • Wa AlaykumuSalaam. Please do…

    • Well now its been reactivated, The last paragraph just kills all Quraniists. These are the best arguments the author gives. And I would like a Quran only person to explain them further 🙂
      . (Not a point but a statement) Quraniis follow their whims and desires without the ahadeeth or sayings of the prophet they interpret the Quran however way they want.
      hey have trouble understanding the fact that if they do not trust our preservation methods when it comes to hadiths, then why do they trust our preservation method when it comes to the Qur’an?! An ignorant among them once responded to me with: “because the Qur’an was compiled during the time of the Prophet (pbuh).” This is completely false! It was compiled after the time of the Prophet by the same people who today call themselves Ahlu Sunnah wal Jama’ah (a.k.a SUNNI)! The ((((((((((((((((((((((((ironic thing is if one were to ask them about the history of the Qur’an, they would have to go to hadiths else there is no other way. The Qur’an itself does not give its history.))))))))))))))))))))))))) Hence, they will go to hadiths when it suits their agenda and ideology.
      Do they follow the seerah or not?????
      And what do u say about the ayaat in the Quran where Allah (swt) says:
      ﰁﰂﰃﰄﰅﰆﰇﰈﰉﰊﰋﰌﰍﰎﰏﰐﰑﰒﰓ
      “O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger” (4:59)

      There are a bunch of ayaat in the Quran stating this. This is just one example.

      THESE ARE MY POINTS .

      WHY DO QURANIISTS TRY TO POTRAY THEMSELVES AS THE MAINSTREAM OPINION. YOU’RE NOT MAINSTREAM, RAHTER YOU’RE A VERY SMALL MINORITY

      • Just like the gospel is of Jesus. It took ONLY 40 years before the recording of the life of jesus started and THE ENTIRE MESSAGE of Christianity was changed completely! Imagine what would happen for a 200 year period. Telling a Hadither That The hadith is NOT PART of Allahs Instructions but a mere collection of ERROR filled works… is like telling a christian Jesus is NOT the son of God. They will say anything to reject THE QURAN ONLY. They tell you the hadith are ONLY explanations BUT THERE IS over 80% of what they practice of islam NOT FOUND in the Quran… and it gets you wondering WHY ALLAH would allow Bukhari to come and do the MAJOR part of traditional Islamic work ; COMPILING the hadith.

        They try to say THOSE who believe in the Quran alone Do not believe in the prophet THIS IS ERRANT LIE… The prophet live, Judged and when he died he left QURAN ALONE. If the hadith were part of the works he should leave for us. HE COULD HAVE SET UP A DIFFERENT SCRIBE TO WRITE THEM DOWN. But from the Quran THE ONLY scribes were the Scribes of the Quran (FiiSuhufin Mukaramat, Marfuhatin Mutaharat).

        080.013-16

        “(It is) in sheets / pages held (greatly) in honour (Arabic: fi suhufin mukarrama), Exalted (in dignity), kept pure and holy (Arabic: marfu’atin mutahhara), (Written) by the hands of scribes. (Arabic: bi’aydi safara), honourable and pious and just (Arabic: kiramin barara)”

        They refuse to read their history. They take the opinion OF THEIR SCHOLARS AS LAW BESIDE THAT OF ALLAH. They forget the jews and christians were led astray by thesame scholars… in Islam you must CHOOSE and FOLLOW a scholar. Independent thinking is mentioned but in practice IT DOES NOT EXIST. You cannot reach ANY conclusion different from the scholars (be you shia/sunni).

        How can one read these verses and still rely on scholars LAWS… found in the Hadith?

        “These are God’s revelations that We recite to you truthfully. In which hadith other than God and His revelations do they believe?” 45:6

        “Or have they not looked at the dominion of the heavens and the earth and all things which God has created? Or that perhaps their time may be drawing near? Which Hadith, other than this (Quran), do they believe in?” 7:185
        “God has brought down the best Hadith; a book (Quran) that is consistent in its frequent repetitions.” 39:23

        “So in which hadith, other than this (Quran), do they believe?” 77:50

        All the verses above contain the same clear commandment not to follow anything other than the Quran.

        The Quran has all the details we need:

        “Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?” 6:114

        6:114 contains clear confirmation that:

        – God is the only source of law.

        – The Quran has all the details.

        Obeying Allah and Obeying the messenger IS ONE THING… Obey the Message (Quran)…

        At the end of the day, You ask… IS ALLAH NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU AS A JUDGE?

  22. Thanks for compiling these sources, very useful

    Do these sources teach a dialect or MSA?

  23. One should must avoid doing mistakes during the Hajj and Umrah… nice blog for beginners.

  24. Great post. I’d love to see more self-improvement articles. Thanks

  25. Our men are now so unloving, irresponsible and pompous… what they know is the Sunnah of multiple wives whom most times, they can’t care for or be just to…

    My sincerest salutation upon Muhammad SAW, his companions, households and all those who sincerely follow him till date…. I love you Feesebilillah

    • Oh be quite. We’re outside our houses 9-5 providing for you and you’re complaining we don’t help around the house often. In the Prophet’s days there was no 9-5 jobs getting all tired so there was time and energy to help around the house, these days there isn’t.

      • I would actually disagree. During the Prophet’s time, they had to work more than 9-5. And they didn’t just sit on a desk all day long, they actually worked. So I would argue they would qualify to be even more tired. As someone who is married and has worked 9-5, I can confidently say that men today do have the time to help the wife around the house if they really want to. Also, the problem is that the women are required to work more than 9-5 around the house but men have a start and finish time. If a man wants to not work around the house and wants his wife to work in the house, then she too has the right to claim a start and finish time.

      • That is the exact attitude that displays the arrogance of men if you work 9-5 women especially mothers work 24/7 and have no days off or breaks. ..even when the kids are asleep there is housework to do and if it wasn’t for nagging husbands who expect their wife to do it among everything else she has seldom time to reflect on her faith and just sit and read quran…so while you finish work and come home and your dinner is ready and brought to you your wife did that and when she is finished she has to clean and dry and pack and vacuum then put kids to bed and fix herself even though she is so tired just to please her man while he just sits there probably looking at other girls on his phone. …

      • umm ibraheem | October 17, 2016 at 1:59 pm |

        oh yes….
        how many wives have a 9-5pm jobs and still do whatever she is excepeted to do in the house +kids
        while her jobless husband doesnt want to move a finger
        doesnt she feel tired too
        the prophet *saw used to help
        and the deen doesnt say oh if u have a 9-5job u r excused from helping ur wife

      • Hijabi Adventures | April 27, 2017 at 7:00 am |

        These comments are horrendous. I’ve been married nearly 4 years. The first year, I finished my Master’s degree (my husband has a bachelors), I had a part-time job, and still did housework. Afterwards, for the past 3 years, I have been the sole provider for my husband and I, working 8:30am-6:30pm, and I still had the ability to come home and help my husband with the housework, and take us on vacations to 6 different countries. Please men, why don’t you try telling me, again, why you can’t help your wife with housework and raising children with your little 9-5’s.

        • Abu Ibrahim | January 9, 2019 at 3:34 pm |

          No offense but that is pathetic. You are clearly not living a Muslim lifestyle according to the Quran and Sunnah. Women are not allowed to work in mix environment where men and women interact.The fact that your husband stays who with the kids proves he is not a man.

      • SHAME ON YOUR MOTHER FOR RAISING A SON LIKE YOU. I AM A SINGLE FATHER OF 3 SONS (WIFE PASSED AWAY VERY YOUNG). I am raising my sons to do their own cooking and cleaning so that they don’t need a maid for a wife but a life partner..

    • Agree with you !
      May Allah help us !

      • you said something you can’t even prove..During the time of the prophet they used to work more than 9 5???from here you come up with this?? a feminist conference??

        • Not everything is feminist. Stick to the point of the post. Stop going off topic. What is wrong with a husband helping his wife in the house? Are you seriously suggesting that the Prophet (pbuh) didn’t help his wives at home? Also, just one question mark is enough. There is no need to place multiple ones. That doesn’t strengthen your argument more.

      • There is nothing wrong in a man helping his wife obviously. Yea the Prophet used to do it too. My point is about the brother’s comment. He is right in some ways. i commented just to get an idea from where you came up with your more than 5 to 9 fact. Don’t forge lies in the name of religion just for the sake of your desire is all i have to say.

        • No one is lying. There is no need to exaggerate. The “9-5” is metaphorically speaking. It’s not literal. And understanding such things as literal is not a sign of intelligence. The point was that the sahabah were either farmers (Ansar) or businessmen (muhajireen). These things are not your typical 8 hour work days. They require a lot to plan, travel, market, research, etc.

  26. PL ANSWER THAT TAWAF OF HAJJ IS VALID WITHOUT WADHU OR IF THEIR IS ANY PENALTY FOR THE SAME. AND IS IT ACCEPTTED AFTER THAT.

  27. Abduh Eladamy | December 29, 2015 at 10:21 am |

    Jazakom Allahu Khayran

  28. Many thanks for such a detailed and informative article. Jazakum Allah khairan.

  29. As the other believers who only look for religious rulings in Quran have already covered most of it, I only wanted to add something that should be obvious. As is evident, these sects are already busy destroying their own members, members of other sects and members of other religions. They are busy with amputations, torture (stoning) and the list goes on. How can it get any worse when they have even invalidated half of Quran to justify themselves! They are too busy arguing about which feet to wash first when praying, rather than spending time on understanding what they pray.

    Allah has already provided us with the cause for such misery they face in the Quran. For example,

    “But whosoever turns away from My Message verily for him is a life narrowed down and We shall raise him up blind on the Day of Judgement.” – 20:124

    The sectarians will never believe. The reason for that is also explained in Quran. For example,

    “Lo! the worst of beasts in Allah’s sight are the deaf, the dumb, who have no sense.” – 8:22

    I often read hadith from time to time but it is nothing more than wikipedia type collection. There is some wisdom but those 6(or 12?) books of hadith have no religious authority for me whatsoever.

    Influenced by western thought I am not. Neither will the deaf and dumb return to the right path by this post. My humble desire is to keep the righteous and naive people away from the evil ideologies that these sects have been spreading. Otherwise, I don’t have a desire for the slightest risk of encountering a takfiri…but I have to do my part for peace and humane conditions in the countries infested with these sects.

  30. a woman is not supposed to obey her husband?? hahaha which deen are you women following??

  31. Abu Ibrahim | May 8, 2016 at 2:15 pm |

    Salam alaykum

    Nice post. I believe I’m at the end of step one. And, I’ve followed almost the same things you listed in step 1. However, my teacher is not very proficient, although he is an Egyptian. I would like to move on to someone else to start step 2. Do you know people who would teach online through skype or some other online program?

  32. Taavi Yusuf | May 10, 2016 at 12:25 am |

    I left this for a much earlier comment, but figured I would repost here at the end as well.

    Thank-you for saying this. Quranists. Submitters. Western Influenced Orientalists Liberals. Whatever. We are all Muslim. No one is trying to “convert” anyone (that I am aware of) to this “modern” way of thinking or looking at our faith. We just happen to be a small sect that believes all of our answers to any of our questions can be found in the perfect jewel, the Holy Quran. La Illaha Il Allahu.

  33. Selam eleikum brother and sisters,

    Do you as Muslim believe that when we follow the sunnah of Muhamed and when we do the next things we are correct:

    Say: I testify that Muhamed was the messenger of God, do you think that our prophet prayed saying his own name?

    Do you think that Muhamed had more than 4 wives and that he married a child? And if you believe this would this not mean that he did not listen to Allah s commandments?

    And the first verse begon with ‘read’, do you believe that he did not knew how to read and in the next 23 years also did not learn to read?

    Why did the hadith books come long after the death of our prophet? Why didn’t he made the hadith books when he was alive? Did the Bible need any other book to explain the Bible? Or the Torah?

    This is only a few questions to show our umma that the hadith books are fabricated and not true.

    I can give you 100 other reasons and Quranic verses where it is stated to not follow other hadiths.

    Just one thing, there will be no return of Jesus and there will be no coming of Mahdi, only in hadith books you can read this and as Muslim you should not believe any other book than Quran. It is even dangerous to believe in such hadiths.

    • Taavi Yusuf | May 14, 2016 at 11:39 am |

      We should try and learn from one another in the spirit of Umma, not in an antagonistic way. The bottom line to all sects of Islam is that we all submit to no other god but Allah. Remember this when interacting with one another.

  34. Just like the gospel is of Jesus. It took ONLY 40 years before the recording of the life of jesus started and THE ENTIRE MESSAGE of Christianity was changed completely! Imagine what would happen for a 200 year period. Telling a Hadither That The hadith is NOT PART of Allahs Instructions but a mere collection of ERROR filled works… is like telling a christian Jesus is NOT the son of God. They will say anything to reject THE QURAN ONLY. They tell you the hadith are ONLY explanations BUT THERE IS over 80% of what they practice of islam NOT FOUND in the Quran… and it gets you wondering WHY ALLAH would allow Bukhari to come and do the MAJOR part of traditional Islamic work ; COMPILING the hadith.

    They try to say THOSE who believe in the Quran alone Do not believe in the prophet THIS IS ERRANT LIE… The prophet live, Judged and when he died he left QURAN ALONE. If the hadith were part of the works he should leave for us. HE COULD HAVE SET UP A DIFFERENT SCRIBE TO WRITE THEM DOWN. But from the Quran THE ONLY scribes were the Scribes of the Quran (FiiSuhufin Mukaramat, Marfuhatin Mutaharat).

    080.013-16

    “(It is) in sheets / pages held (greatly) in honour (Arabic: fi suhufin mukarrama), Exalted (in dignity), kept pure and holy (Arabic: marfu’atin mutahhara), (Written) by the hands of scribes. (Arabic: bi’aydi safara), honourable and pious and just (Arabic: kiramin barara)”

    They refuse to read their history. They take the opinion OF THEIR SCHOLARS AS LAW BESIDE THAT OF ALLAH. They forget the jews and christians were led astray by thesame scholars… in Islam you must CHOOSE and FOLLOW a scholar. Independent thinking is mentioned but in practice IT DOES NOT EXIST. You cannot reach ANY conclusion different from the scholars (be you shia/sunni).

    How can one read these verses and still rely on scholars LAWS… found in the Hadith?

    “These are God’s revelations that We recite to you truthfully. In which hadith other than God and His revelations do they believe?” 45:6

    “Or have they not looked at the dominion of the heavens and the earth and all things which God has created? Or that perhaps their time may be drawing near? Which Hadith, other than this (Quran), do they believe in?” 7:185
    “God has brought down the best Hadith; a book (Quran) that is consistent in its frequent repetitions.” 39:23

    “So in which hadith, other than this (Quran), do they believe?” 77:50

    All the verses above contain the same clear commandment not to follow anything other than the Quran.

    The Quran has all the details we need:

    “Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?” 6:114

    6:114 contains clear confirmation that:

    – God is the only source of law.

    – The Quran has all the details.

    Obeying Allah and Obeying the messenger IS ONE THING… Obey the Message (Quran)…

    At the end of the day, You ask… IS ALLAH NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU AS A JUDGE?

  35. Abu Mediha | May 28, 2016 at 11:38 pm |

    Jazak Allah Khair!

    Alhamdulillah!

    An excellent explanation of how we seek forgiveness for the errors of our scholars of Ahle Sunnah. The difference between a Salafi and a person of misguidance is that we acknowledge the errors of our Aalim’s and seek forgiveness for them, whereas the innovators blindly defend, and follow, the errors of their leaders.

    May Allah reward our Ulama and keep them steadfast upon the Quran and Sunnah. Ameen.
    May Allah increase our knowledge and faith and keep us steadfast upon the Quran and the Sunnah. Ameen.
    May Allah save us from all innovation and misguidance. Ameen.

  36. The Quranist movement is a Zionist psy-opm make no mistake

    99% of the Quranists are non Arabic speakers.

    Those people are way out of depth.

  37. Asalamu Alaykum,

    Great, informative and well referenced article brother. Nothing beats following the Islamic sources from the actual people who lived and breathed it with the prohet himself, peace be upon him and/or his companions, may Allah be pleased with them all and/or the companions students and/or the students of the students of the companions, may Allah have mercy on all of the Salaf and/or the scholars who ONLY follow the aforementioned Islamic vanguards like the four great imams, Ibn Taymiyyah, Hasan al-Basri, Ibn Kathir, Imam Bukhari, Imam Muslim, Imam Albani, Imam Baz, Imam Uthmayn, Imam Fawzan etc etc, may Allah have mercy on all are great scholars and their students, ameen ya Rabb.

    May Allah set guide the Ummah back to TAWHEED and protect and guide us away from innovation, ameen ya Rabb.

  38. First of all the question posed to Late Ahmed Deedat is flawed because the atheist doesn’t believe in resurrection after death. We will only know the reality if we are resurrected. How would Deedat know if he is not resurrected. Atheist sometimes get emotional and ask stupid questions.Finally,if a theist is wrong, it’s simple, there are no implications, we remain dead in an eternal and peaceful sleep. However if the atheist is wrong, there are real implications that the atheists will have to deal with, the very implications they denied, and claimed were mere fantasies.

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  39. a lot of hadiths and stories about the prophet life are questionable, some even contradict with quran, people that collected them were like muslim and bukhari were very late after prophets death, the quran was collected to one bind book right after the prophet death and sent copies to other nations. the same cannot be said about hadiths and sira. the prayer and all 5 corners of islam are mentioned in the quran. a lot of salafi/wahabi liars say they without sira we wouldnt know the 5 corners of islam which is a total lie by them.

  40. Salam can you put a reblog button under this post so i can reblog it to my sight?

  41. Reblogged this on Blogging Theology and commented:
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  42. Shalom,
    beautiful blog, educational too. BTW Jewish Orthodox married women still cover their hair today.

  43. There is of course the same problem with rabbis, some qualified and some less. But Thank God I found a smart rabbi a brilliant scholar and started attending his lectures.. are there maybe other mosques with better imams? or it works differently?

    • There are some mosques which have great imam speakers but overall it’s pretty rare. Most mosques have at least two sermons on Friday. The first one is usually given by the hired imam and the second one is usually a volunteer from the community. In some cases, the volunteer community members do a better job in delivering a meaningful and effective sermon than the hired imam. 🙂

  44. There are many khateebs looking for jobs but without much of the qualifications required in North America. Most imams are trained over seas where their priorities are totally different and thsi is why they pick such subjects that are relevant in their point of view but not really for the listener.

    Also, there is a tough rejection to learn new languages although the messenger (Peace be upon him) asked several companions to learn the others’ languages.

    US case is easier than Europe sometimes or some areas in Canada where there are several official languages in the state and the khtaeeb is only willing (or capable) to deliver in Arabic.

  45. Please anybody clarify me this doubt… if yusha lived only 27 years after the death of prophet musa, then how did he invade jerusalem after 40 years, the years children of israel wandered in the deserts??

    • Musa didn’t die in the beginning of the wandering period but probably towards its end. This is why it is mentioned in Bukhari that when the angel of death was sent to him, Musa asked Allah that He bring him near the Sacred Land (Jerusalem) at a distance of a stone’s throw. Allah’s Apostle (p.b.u.h) said, “Were I there I would show you the grave of Musa by the way near the red sand hill.”

  46. I cannot agreee with you that once you understand Quran you can understand all Arabic. All native Arab speakers have difficulty with understanding Quran. So how do you expect non natives to learn Quran first and then MSA second ?

    • You are welcome to disagree but this has not been my experience nor of numerous Arabs who’ve similarly expressed this phenomenon.

      I think your’re misunderstanding what I’ve tried to say. I meant that the Qur’an is much more complex and deep than MSA. Being able to understand it makes MSA much easier to comprehend but the opposite is not true. I’ve spent hours on one page of the Qur’an trying to figure it out and then I go to a regular Arabic book or article and the latter is so much easier! Qur’an is poetic and its understanding leads to a better understanding of the language because you are forced to comprehend the language as well. This is true not just for Arabic but any language. As it is popularly said, “If you can understand poetry in a particular language, then you can understand anything in that language.”

  47. Such irony.The so called ‘Thinking Muslim ‘ that actually refuses to do so properly and just follows the crowd because it’s ‘mainstream’. As if that is a criterion or a stamp of legitimacy.By that logic then the majority view is correct and the Americans were right to elect Donald Trump!
    Put very blatantly because really it has to be said in no uncertain terms :The Book that is known as the Quran is a divine scripture from God and preserved by God and the Hadith are entirely man made and have NO divine sanction
    So what you are saying is that a God created text needs the support of man made writings i.e hadith to interpret it, otherwise it’s impossible to understand it??
    Why does the Quran say it is detailed 6:114 ,complete and explains everything need in Islam16:89 ,12:111 ,that nothing has been left out of it 6:38 that every kind of example has been given in it 17:89?Does that not mean anything???
    Infact God challenges man to accept other than Allah’s word as Law 6:114 and to believe in any other hadith other than Allah’s Book 45:6 . The Quran calls itself the best narration -‘Ahsanul hadith’.39:23
    The Quran itself is replete with evidence that it is to be regarded as the sole authority when it comes to being a true believer and following Islam.
    It’s as if it was predicted that the majority of the “Ummah” would go astray 10:92 and hence the Prophet’s lament to Allah that his people have deserted the Quran surah furqan verse 30.

    • Firstly, the majority did NOT elect Donald Trump! Please pay attention to the news properly and how American democracy works. The electoral colleges did.

      Secondly, where did you get that the Qur’an is divine? Where did we get this? Where did we get that it was revealed to Muhammad (pbuh)? Where did we get the details for it? It was all through hadiths!

      Thirdly, your sect did not exist more than 150 years ago. Name me one person from the history of Islam who rejected hadiths before the invention of your sect. The reality is that hadith rejectors are a recent phenomenon with no grasp over Islamic scholarship and how the Qur’an and hadiths were actually preserved. And this is exactly why they are seen as irrelevant by the Muslim masses.

  48. Umm Okaasha | December 2, 2016 at 4:01 pm |

    Jzk for this post… it definitely is a neglected sunnah. The video is spot on, the cultural upbringing is to blame where boys are treated like kings and girls are taught to cook, clean iron from a fairly young age (I recall doing all these things from 11 years old) whereas my brothers were not taught any kind of responsibility. Just knew how to watch TV and play games.
    So once men get married that is all they know to be spoon fed and to order about.

    Unfortunately even when men start practising they will never look to how they should treat their wife or what her rights are or give her any kind of emotional support etc but will know their right of intercourse and multiple wives really well. Such sad times. I could go on as iv seen, heard and experienced…

    No we are not perfect but a helping hand would be great. We are not robots or machines and we need a rest, a break from time to time.

    May Allaah make us good wives and good husbands. Aameen

  49. who is the writer of this blog?

  50. Confused by “The origin of the word naseehah comes from the word ikhlaas”. Nun-Sin-Ha and Kh-Lam-Sin are not even remotely similar roots. How are these dissimilar words related?

  51. Rashid Patch | December 25, 2016 at 8:17 pm |

    I’m afraid I cannot understand how that response relates to my question. I cannot find in that list of definitions any statement that naseehah “comes from” ikhlas. In any case, I was not talking about definitions; I can agree to equivalence of meaning. I was asking about the triliteral roots. Again, how can Nun-Sin-Ha be derived from Kh-Lam-Sin?

    • Bro, this is a translation of an article on islamweb.net. The literal Arabic there says:

      وأصل النصيحة : من الإخلاص

      Which I’ve translated above as ‘The origin of the word naseehah comes from the word ikhlaas’. It can also be translated as, “the origin of naseehah is ikhlaas’ or ‘the basis of naseehah is ikhlaas’. Maybe it was just bad translation. But in Arabic just because they say, ‘the origin of’ doesn’t always mean triliteral roots. It can also mean ‘origin in meaning’, which seems to be the case here.

      Allah Knows Best.

  52. Isn’t Almighty Allah capable of preserving His revelations as He promised He would (Quran 15:9 )? Isn’t the Most Wise, All Knowing, capable of making His revelation clear (Quran 65:11) to understand without the need for us to rely on hearsay? It seems just like the pagan Quraish who were fighting the prophet and his followers to preserve their pagan tradition, the sects have turned tradition into a religion and are willing to fight for it. Indeed Islamic history completed a full circle. From disbelieve to believe to disbelieve again.

    • He certainly is but you’re misunderstanding the the definition of ‘revelation’. Revelation is not just the Qur’an but also the hadiths. Allah is clear in the Qur’an that obedience to the Messenger is a huge part of obeying Allah. Allah Himself made the revelation like this in two parts. To say otherwise is ignorance. This is why Muslims have never rejected hadiths until in recent times. Secondly, not all hadiths are hearsay. They have been thoroughly reviewed by the scholars. Thirdly, the Quraish preserving their tradition has nothing to do with this. We have verified reports going back to the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), which was not the case with the Quraysh. Lastly, I don’t know why hadith rejectors like to pretend that Qur’an can be understood without hadiths. There are numerous verses which cannot be understood without hadiths, for example:

      Why [is it that] when a disaster struck you, although you had struck with one twice as great, you said, “From where is this?” Say, “It is from yourselves.” Indeed, Allah is over all things competent. [3:165]

      What disaster is this verse talking about? What was struck twice as great? Tell me from the Qur’an.

      Another verse:

      And what struck you on the day the two armies met was by permission of Allah that He might make evident the [true] believers. [3:166]

      What two armies? And on what day? Where is this information in the Qur’an?

      And so on and so forth.

      • We don’t need to know the historical facts, because they are not important when following Islam. Although the verse might have a historical correlation, that’s not what we need, we just need the message.

        Verse 3:165 simply means that when you do a bad deed and a digrace hits you as a consequence, you can only blame yourself. You did that bad deed and now you deserve to be punished.

        Again, who cares what happened in verse 3:166? We don’t need to know who those armies were, or what struck them. The message can easily be understood by reading the next two verses:

        “And that He might make evident those who are hypocrites. For it was said to them, “Come, fight in the way of Allah or [at least] defend.” They said, “If we had known [there would be] fighting, we would have followed you.” They were nearer to disbelief that day than to faith, saying with their mouths what was not in their hearts. And Allah is most Knowing of what they conceal.”[3:167]

        “Those who said about their brothers while sitting [at home], “If they had obeyed us, they would not have been killed.” Say, “Then prevent death from yourselves, if you should be truthful.” [3.168]

        The moral of the story is: it’s not okay to refuse to fight for God.

        Also, I believe reading hadiths for historical insights is okay. We just read them knowing that there might be some mistakes, and not believing everything 100%
        Just like when we study history in school, we know that what we are studying is just one version of what actually happened, right?

        One last thing, you said that this Quranist movement is recent. Well, it’s not. Ibrahim al-Nazzam was a Quranist who lived between the eighth and ninth centuries. He even found a movement called Nazzamiyya. Its followers followed the Quran word ford word, and nothing else.

        I mean, it makes sense if you think about how many contradictions there are in the hadiths. Not only between the hadiths and the Quran, but also among the hadiths themselves!
        Take, for instance, the age of Aisha when she got married.
        There are these hadiths that state that she was only six years old. It turned out that there are other hadiths that do not line up with them, in fact they imply that she was actually 19! (source: http://www.muslim.org/islam/aisha-age.htm)

        I personally believe that things that have been left out of the Quran have been left out on purpose, because the Quran was and is meant to be a book for EVERYONE. The people who followed the Prophet and all the following generations until the Judgement Day. It is a UNIVERSAL book. And, obviously, you cannot expect society to remain still for centuries and centuries. It is going to evolve. And the Quran is ambiguous enough to let us evolve. For instance, the fact that we can’t draw living beings is not in the Quran, but it is found in a hadith, We can deduce that the prohibition of drawing was relevant at the time of the Prophet (pbuh) due to the fact that it was common to worship images.

        Yes, the Quran tells us to obey the Prophet, but can we hear the Prophet’s orders with our own ears? No. Because he is dead. All we have left is what people SUPPOSEDLY heard him say. Therefore, we don’t have the possibily to obey the Prophet. But we do have the possibility to follow the Quran.

        • Are you freaking kidding me? Historical facts are not important? And you wonder why the majority of Muslim world doesn’t take you guys seriously and never will.

          You CANNOT understand it without the historical contexts. The verse loses the true meaning behind it. This way then ANYONE can interpret any verse in ANY way.

          What kind of a person reads a book that has historical references, either directly or indirectly, and then says, “Oh, I don’t need those to understand what’s going on.” That’s called foolishness. And a book written with such a purpose is worthless and meaningless. So try again.

          And the moral of the story is NOT to refuse fighting for God. The moral of the story is to not disobey the Prophet’s command. This is what 3:166 is referring to. The whole reason those verses came down was because the companions disobeyed ONE command of the Prophet. That was the point. The 167 and 168 are speaking about hypocrites who refused to fight all together. 166 is focusing on the companions not they hypocrites. The latter are a separate case. All of this is evident to anyone who knows hadiths context. The explanation you gave was completely childish. I only gave two examples. There are many other examples like these in the Qur’an.

          Mainstream Muslims already have a scrutinizing system of separating between authentic and unauthentic hadiths. This is common knowledge. So what you believe is irrelevant. Also, the same people who preserved the Qur’an also preserved hadiths. Favoring one over the other makes no sense at all. It’s the same scholars.

          And Ibrahim al-Nazzam? Are you serious? He had little to no influence and is known for his criticism of the first generation of Muslims, whom he viewed as possessing defective personalities and intellects. The anti-hadith movement as we know it today has never existed until recent times. They are a result of colonial pressures. They have severe inferiority complexes towards the West. This is why their arguments are often exactly the same as Western academics.

          Any non-Muslim could show you contradictions in the Qur’an as well! Just do a Google search on it. Many anti-Islam websites are dedicated to this practice. But we Muslims reconcile those perceived contradictions do we not? So why not hadiths?! Well, us mainstream Muslims do so. I don’t know what on earth you people do.

          And OMG get over the age of Aisha! She was married to him when she was 6 and consummated that marriage when she was 9. So what?!!! Your great grand daddy during that time was doing the EXACT same thing. Do yourself a favor and take Anthropology or Sociology and educate yourself. It was the custom of the people of that time. Young girls marrying older men was no big deal. Quit judging their practices with your biased 21st century glasses. Prove to me from a scholarly source with references that it was not a common practice at that time. As for your reference website, it is basing this on an inference and not direct quote! We have a direct quote from Aisha that she was 6 at marriage and then 9 during consummation and all you can muster together is an inference from a statement? Like seriously?

          As for your last comment, can we hear Allah’s commands with our own ears? No we can’t. All we have is what Muhammad (pbuh) said he heard and recorded by people who also said they heard the Prophet (pbuh) say other things as well. Prove to me ONE SINGLE companion of the Prophet that rejected hadiths. Just ONE.

      • “You CANNOT understand it without the historical contexts. The verse loses the true meaning behind it. This way then ANYONE can interpret any verse in ANY way.”

        In verse 3:7 it says ” It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise – they are the foundation of the Book – and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them]. And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah. But those firm in knowledge say, “We believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord.” And no one will be reminded except those of understanding.”

        In verse 39:18 it says “Those who listen to the Word, and follow the best (meaning) in it: those are the ones whom Allah has guided, and those are the ones endued with understanding.”

        Can’t you see that this is exactly the point of the Quran? To distinguish us on the basis of how we decide to interpret its verses? Some people “in whose hearts is deviation” will say that 4:34 says it’s okay to beat your wife in a certain circumstance, but some other people who are “the ones whom Allah has guided” will rather say that that verse does not say “beat them” but “separate from them”. If we needed hadith to tell us the meaning of the verses in the Quran, then what is 39:18 talking about?
        I hate it when people say Islam is an organized religion, because the truth is that it’s not.

        There are a lot of verses in the Quran which still today are not clear. Not even to scholars who rely on hadiths. Is this stopping us from understanding the core message? Obviously not.

        God used the word “hadith” in the Quran to warn us against hadiths. Why else would He use that exact word?

        “Did they not look at the dominion of heavens and earth, and all that GOD has created?. Perhaps their time is coming near; so in which HADITH after this will they have faith?” [7:185]

        “And from the people, there are those who accept baseless HADITH to mislead from the path of GOD without knowledge, and takes it as entertainment. Those will have a humiliating retribution.” [31:6]

        These are God’s revelations that We recite to you with truth. So, in which HADITH after God and His revelations do they believe? [45:6]

        Eccetera eccetera…

        God told us not to divide in sects and here we are divided in sects! All divisions came from hadiths, and this is a fact.

        You claim that there are no contradictions in hadiths.
        Okay, can you tell me why some hadiths say Aisha was 6 and other say that she was 19, then?
        Can you also tell me why the Quran says there’s no compulsion in religion and the hadiths say you should kill apostates?
        Can you explain why Quran 4:123 says “Paradise is not [obtained] by your wishful thinking nor by that of the People of the Scripture. Whoever does a wrong will be recompensed for it, and he will not find besides Allah a protector or a helper.”, but than we have a hadith that says that Muslims people will be saved from hell by replacing them with Jews and Christians?

        Also, about child marriage. People in the ancient times did a lot of disgusting things, like burying baby girls just because of their biological sex. Does it mean it was right? Marrying children is NEVER right. And the fact that Muslims are trying to justify it saying stuff like “Aisha was mature for her age!” makes me want to throw up.
        The Quran tells us that we can marry when we are mature. I don’t care how mature for her age a 6-year-old is. She is still a child.

        Please, answer this question honestly: would you ever give your 6-year-old daughter who still plays with dolls in marriage?

        People who condone child marriage probably live in the West, because otherwise they would know what a big problem it is in countries like India and Yemen.

        Honestly, I am so disgusted right now, yuk! I wonder how certain mentalities can still persist in the 21st century…so sad.

        • I’m trying my best to understand your perspective but it’s really hard to follow your logic. It just doesn’t make any sense.

          What you exactly trying to extract from 3:7? It has nothing to do with what you’re deriving from it. The Muhkamat are the verses that explain the the allowed, prohibited, laws, limits, obligations and rulings that should be believed in and implemented and are crystal clear. As for the Mutashabihat verses, they include parables, oaths, and what should be believed in, but not implemented. The clear verses are very clear in their meaning and explicit. The unclear not so much. For example, Christians might claim that `Isa is divine because the Qur’an states that he is a Spirit of Allah and His Word. But they ignore other verses that clearly assert that `Isa is but one of Allah’s creatures and that he is the servant and Messenger of Allah, among other Messengers. Similarly, the clear verses state that Allah is One but the unclear speak about His Attributes which are not completely clear. Same thing with the afterlife and so on and so forth. This is why it is reported in a hadith that once the Prophet (pbuh) recited this verse, and then said, “When you see those who follow what is not so clear of the Qur’an, then they are those whom Allah described, so beware of them.” (Bukhari)

          As for 39:18, it simply means that those who hear the Qur’an and follow its guidance. Not sure where or why you are bringing in ‘following interpretation’ into it. What is your evidence? Nothing like that is in the original Arabic. Your just implying something based on a very bad translation. The literal Arabic says “They follow what is best”.

          As for the verse on beating, first of all, it doesn’t say ‘beat’, it says ‘hit’. Again, this is Arabic 101. Dharb in Arabic means to hit. Where on earth are you getting ‘seperate from them’? This is nothing but false apologetics. Basic principle when it comes to language is that you take it literally unless there is evidence to indicate otherwise. It was a common practice during their times to discipline their wives physically. The only difference was that Islam told the men to not do it hard because before Islam they used to hit hard. But not a single hadith exists in which it is reported that the Prophet hit any of his wives so this is the preferred practice. But there are hadiths in which it is clear that some companions used to hit their wives and it was in that light the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said his famous words, “The best of you are those who are best to their wives.”

          You said, “God used the word “hadith” in the Quran to warn us against hadiths. Why else would He use that exact word?”

          Oh comon! Seriously? You guys will pull anything out of the hat to support your claims won’t you? ISIS does the same thing. They just pick random verses with specific words and say they have evidence FROM THE QUR’AN for their horrific actions.

          7:185 – This clearly speaking about the Qur’an that it is a revelation from God and to believe in it and follow it. It doesn’t deny the hadiths of the Prophet himself. It’s speaking in context of a revealed book. Because the SAME tongue of Muhammad that taught us the Qur’an also taught us hadiths!

          31:6 – Again a wrong translation. The actual Arabic says “person who BUYS the amusement of speech to mislead others from the way of Allah”. Look if you’re going to claim that you want to follow the Qur’an, then at least learn basic Arabic and be able to tell if a translation makes sense or not. Wouldn’t you be taking from the original Arabic? Why are you relying on OTHER people’s wrong translations or should I say their interpretations? You can’t make up your own mind? Anyway, this verse is speaking about those who purchase that which takes them away from the obedience of Allah and prevents them from His pleasure. THAT is what is meant by the Arabic Lahw Al-Hadith.

          45:6 – Again speaking about Qur’an but doesn’t negate the Prophetic statements. It’s speaking context of divine revelations. BTW, this also has misstranslation. The verse doesn’t say ‘revelations’ but ‘verses’. Not sure where you or the translator you’re copying and pasting from got ‘revelations’.

          Since you are so fond of isolated individual verses, then how can you ignore this verse: “And We revealed to you [O Muhammad] the message [Qur’an] that you may MAKE CLEAR to the people what was sent down to them and that they might give thought” (Qur’an 16:44). I mean that’s pretty explicit. What was he making clear? Why does he NEED to make it clear if it’s already all clear? Not sure why you guys cherry pick verses to support your case and then ignore the rest.

          You said, “God told us not to divide in sects and here we are divided in sects! All divisions came from hadiths, and this is a fact.”

          That is complete BS. Please study history and don’t make unproven claims. There are many reasons for the different sects and it has mostly to do with interpretations. Much of these interpretation are a result of outside influences (Greek, Christian, Jewish, Hindu, etc.) Everyone knows that when Islam spread, many people who converted brought their own religious and cultural influences into Islam and basically “Islamized” them and tried interpret verses from the Qur’an and Hadiths to justify them. Some sects are also due to political differences.

          When did I say that there is a hadith that says that Aisha was 19? I never said that. YOU said that. I said that based on the website that you sent me, it is a deduced understanding indirectly and is not a direct quote, whereas, we have a direct quote from Aisha that she was 9. Show me where Aisha says that she was not 9. But wait you don’t believe in hadiths right? So what makes you so sure that the Prophet even married anyone named Aisha? Maybe she’s just a figment of someone’s imagination. Why don’t you prove it to me from the Qur’an? And FYI, here is a link to hadith expert professor on the issue of Aisha’s age from Georgetown University: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsYk-tRp9jk

          Yes, not all cultural practices are correct but why didn’t the Qur’an clearly make child marriages forbidden even though it was a common practice in Arab culture? Qur’an forbids burying girls alive but why not this issue? If a predominant practice was wrong, Allah forbade it either through the Qur’an or hadith but there is nothing mentioned about marrying a child. It was left open to cultures. Your great grand daddy was doin it too. As for your question, if I was LIVING in that time, I wouldn’t mind giving my daughter because I wouldn’t have seen anything wrong with it just as YOU would have done the same. But today I will not because it is not part of my culture nor am I raised in it, so I would definetly not give my daughter at that young age. In the same way, I will not wear clothes of that period because the culture has changed though during that time I would have found it normal. That’s common sense. Seriously, go take Anthropology and Sociology.

          I can find you multiple veses in the Qur’an wich condemn Jewish and Christian beliefs and warn severely against them. What you trying to get at?

          Here is the reality. Your SECT didn’t exist before the colonial period. You guys have contributed nothing to the Qur’an. It was preserved generation after generation through SUNNI scholars who were also preserving the hadiths with it. The fact that 99.999999% of the Muslim world believes in hadiths should be clear evidence that your sect is NOT mainstream but only a REACTION to orientalism and western criticism and imperialism.

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  55. Ayesha shahid | February 10, 2017 at 3:27 am |

    I think it,s wrong information

  56. To the “thinking muslim”,
    It is ironic you chose that name…because people like you do not think..they let others think on their behalf and resort to insults to make their point (yes it’s ironic because i’m insulting you:)).
    Allah said in his holy book the quran ‘ we have detailed EVERYTHING in this book’, so is that not clear???? do i believe Allah or humans who say the Quran needs Hadith to be complete. your choice.
    From the ‘real thinking muslim’. At least i hope so. In your misguided opinion, how did the Shia preserver the Quran? Let me answer you…NO ONE preserved the Quran except Allah himself…the one who split the sea for Moses and allowed Isa the powers to resurrect the dead…the prophet’s mohamed’s miracle is the Quran…it is a miracle it was preserved all these year and will do so until the end of times…so you’re saying Bukhari and his ilk are part of the miracle???? How could a persian man (Bukhari), who lived for 60 years managed to compile 600,000 hadith when he claimed he would travel for months and sometimes a year to collect one Hadith??? Answer me this question you non-thinking retard???

  57. Another question for the ‘thinking muslim’. When a Hadith contradicts the Quran, which one shall we follow? Allah in the Quran instructed Mohamed to deliver the message and not force it upon anyone…yet Hadith says we should kill anyone who rejects Islam…can you see the contradiction ‘thinking muslim’?

    In your opinion and the majority of the muslim community, which i don’t give two hoots about as you have become insignificant and downright misguided, I am a kafir although i professed my shahad to Allah and believe in him as he instructed, isn’t that not a contradiction? Allah has the power to judge…only Allah has to right to judge and punish, not fallible humans whom you follow, revere and even place above Allah.

    The quran says we are allowed a maximum of 4 wives, yet hadith blasphemes the prophet and said he had as many as 14…why would a messenger contradict his own message?

    I don’t care what humans say or do…i don’t care about history except for obtaining reference…i don’t trust ANYONE not even myself, but i do trust Allah and his book…that’s it. Let him be my judge.

    ISIS are only implementing sharia law that is based on Hadith, so if you don’t believe in ISIS then you shouldn’t believe in Hadith…you hypocrites who cherry pick from the Hadith when it suits you…Sharia law is based on Hadith, which is why it is barbaric and downright evil…go live in Saudi Arabia and see the evil for yourself…to tell me there is a difference between Saudi Arabia and ISIS would be a blatant lie and vain justification of your false beliefs.

    As Allah said in his book, you guys dress the right with evil…you have enveloped the great guidance from Allah with filth that is the Hadith…in which it says the prophet married a 6 year old and would sleep with all his wives in one night…he would burn the houses of people who do not pray yet the Quran clearly says not to judge or punish anyone…Hadith that tells me it is healthy to drink camel’s urnine…hadith that tells me a goat ate a verse from the Quran…it blasphemes the holy prophet and turns him into a lustful hateful man which wasn’t…only the enemies of Allah and his prophet would write such things.

    Is it any wonder the Muslims are lost, confused and downright misguided because so called scholars are guiding them to the abyss. Who cares about mainstream muslims? what contribution do you have except oppression of women and humans in general, beheadings and terrorism…show me one verse in the Quran that mentions beheading???? Allah specified rules for war in the context of self defence, so why would muslims justify invading other lands to impose Allah’s will, when he clearly instructed otherwise?

    I have given up trying to reason with retards, as Allah said in his book…those who do not see, hear or think…but YOU and YOUR EVIL SCHOLARS do not represent Islam…the veil is lifting and the light of Allah is beginning to shine onto humanity and there is nothing you imbeciles can do about it except threaten and insult. You are a disgrace to Islam and an insult to humanity. Let Allah be the judge on judgement day. until then, go and drink some Camel’s urine or marry a 6 year old.

    • Another whiny hadith rejector pissed off because I spoke the truth. I get one of you every few months bickering and making repetetive arguments that have already been answered. I’m not going to answer most of your ridiculous and ignorant claims because I’ve already discussed them with others in the comments section.

      Here is the reality. Your SECT didn’t exist before colonialism. You literally came into existence out of a inferiority complex towards the West. Allah did preserve the Qur’an but who did He use as tools? Pro-hadith scholars! You didn’t exist during the time of the companions remember? Name me a single hadith denier that helped preserve the Qur’an a thousand years ago. JUST ONE. So you can whine and complain all you want, the truth is the truth. This is why you are the laughing stock of the Muslim world. You represent a very minuscule minority.

      You also just dug yourself into a hole. You just said: “Did you know that according to Hadith when a man divorces his wife, he cannot re-marry her until she marries and gets divorced again with another man.” That’s funny because, that is exactly what it says in the Qur’an too: “And if he has divorced her [for the third time], then she is not lawful to him afterward until [after] she marries a husband other than him. And if the latter husband divorces her [or dies], there is no blame upon the woman and her former husband for returning to each other if they think that they can keep [within] the limits of Allah” [Qur’an 2:230]. I mean seriously, your SECT’s ignorance knows no bounds. At least do some basic reading before commenting, otherwise, it makes you look like an ignorant fool or are you too used to it and think it’s normal to be foolish?

      As for Prophet’s wives, get over it.He had more than four.Name me a single credible historian, Muslim or otherwise, that has said that he did not have more than four. If I use your logic, then how do we even know Muhammad existed and that he lived in Mecca and moved to Medina?

      As for camel urine mixed in milk? Sure, why not? Got some?

      Marrying a six year old, sure send me back to that point in time and maybe one of your predecessors is available? Prove to me historically from a credible historian that young girls marrying older men was NOT a norm at that time. You claim to follow the Quran right? Why didn’t Allah forbid this COMMON practice at that time? Can you show me a verse?

      • God Loves Those Who Follow Quran | April 20, 2017 at 3:19 pm |

        Allah never liked scholars. Period.

        • Yea, keep telling yourself that fairy tale.

          • Taking the hadith as a source of History is different from taking the hadith as a source of law. Recording of history, accurate or otherwise is inevitable. It is a natural human tendency. Taking it as a source of law is a whole other matter. Not knowing the background of the Battles discussed in the Quran does not effect our essential understanding of the ayaat discussing them. What Allah says about those battles is easily understood. To know the background of those battles is irrelevant to us followers of the Book. All the details that we should know have been recorded in the book. Same is the case with 66:3. The information that the Prophet was told about was none of our business. It was of a personal nature and not knowing it does not effect our worship of Allah negatively.
            If you have ever been a student of history, you would know that there is much distortion and bias present in historical narrations. Also, if you believe in 16:89, you would know that absence of historical contexts does not effect Quranic ayaat meaning.
            ”And on the day when We will raise up in every people a witness against them from among themselves, and bring you as a witness against these– and We have revealed the Book to you explaining clearly everything, and a guidance and mercy and good news for those who submit”.(16:89)
            Even if I consider the historical accounts that you do, you deny the existence of historical reports which DO exist against the Hadith. However, as they do not support your agenda you discard them. How do you justify that to yourself?
            Anyway, proof against the Hadith is found in the Quran itself.
            Just read 6:114-6:115.
            ”Shall I then seek a judge other than Allah? And He it is Who has revealed to you the Book (which is) made plain; and those whom We have given the Book know that it is revealed by your Lord with truth, therefore you should not be of the disputers”.
            ”And the word of your Lord has been accomplished truly and justly; there is none who can change His words, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing”.

          • The Thinking Muslim | June 27, 2018 at 9:20 am |

            Can you guys actually read the article and all the associated links before spamming my page? Many of your questions are already answered in the comments section or the links provided for further study in the above article. You can believe conspiracy theories about the Qur’an being the only source guide for law as much as you want but it’s not going to change reality. You can single out verses and make your own interpretations without any reference to historical context or scholarly input (much like ISIS) all you want, it won’t change the reality that according to MAINSTREAM Islam, the Qur’an and Hadiths both are essential reference points for law.

            For the hundredth time, the movement to deny hadiths as a source of Islamic law is a modern phenomenon introduced by non-Muslim orientalists in the previous century and adopted by Muslims with inferiority complexes. It has no precedent in our history. Please just stop. You’re just embarrassing yourselves. NO ONE, even among the sahaba, ever questioned the authority of hadiths. Some among them (not all) were ONLY concerned about people abandoning the Qur’an entirely and focusing only on hadiths. Mainstream Muslims DON’T do that. We do what the sahaba used to do which is to focus on BOTH. This is quite clear to anyone who has studied the subject in any detail rather than picking things out and presenting half-truths or inserting their own conspiracies into it. We have hadiths that discourage writing hadiths and others which encourage it. This means this wasn’t an absolute command. By your logic the seemingly contradictory verses in the Qur’an should be sufficient to prove it’s not reliable (a common argument by non-Muslim debaters).

            Further, the very sahaba that narrated hadiths about not writing down hadiths themselves FOLLOWED hadiths! There is not a single instance where they rejected hadiths in its entirety. Quote me ONE REFERENCE where the sahaba rejected hadiths in their entirety as a source of law. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar and should not be believed and is NOT worthy of being debated because of the absurdity of the claim.

            Further, Qur’an was preserved and did go through an authentication process and there are verses that were considered too weak to be added. Even non-Muslim debaters know this! During debates, they always point out that Qur’an was not preserved as the Muslims proclaim and bring up historical references from Muslim texts on the subject. Please study the topic before commenting otherwise it makes the person look very ignorant.

            Last point, the claim of the dominant view does hold correct and true if it is within the laws of Islam. There is nothing un-Islamic about the dominant view. It’s in accordance to the Qur’an and Sunnah. By your logic, if in a decade the hadith-rejecters become the majority of the ummah, then they are to be rejected because “the dominant view doesn’t necessarily mean the correct view.” Would hadith rejecters buy this argument then? Nope. See how ridiculous that sounds? They will probably say, “but we’re on the truth and in accordance to the Qur’an so it doesn’t matter if we’re the majority.” So same principle. We the MAINSTREAM Muslims and the majority who have existed since the time of the Prophet (pbuh) know we are on the truth with regards to the matter of hadiths and firmly believe it is in accordance to the commands in the Qur’an so it’s doesn’t matter that we’re the majority. Commands in the Qur’an to obey Allah and His messenger, to follow Allah and His Messenger, to take the Prophet as a judge in all affairs, etc. are all in reference to hadiths. This is how everyone INCLUDING the sahaba understood them.

            Rest of your arguments are just repetitive stuff that has already been addressed in other comments and in the links provided above in the article so no need to repeat them here. Those interested can go there for further research.

            Anyway, I’m going to go back to my life now as yet again, hadith rejecters have not been able to produce a convincing case for their claim. I suggest you subscribe to my blog as I plan to push out more articles on this subject with more details insha’Allah.

            Have a good day.

  58. freeaddress3121 Not all hadith are fabricated, Look through the signs of hour mentioned in hadith it’s all proven to be true, Yes you should not take hadith more seriously then Quran but at the same time, you should not completely reject the hadith.

    • Three Versions in Hadith | May 26, 2017 at 1:44 pm |

      Only Allah knows.

      42:18 Unquestionably, those who argue concerning the Hour are in extreme error.

  59. Aysha,

    Did you know that Hadith allows muslims to sleep with women captured in war? just like ISIS do. Did you know that according to Hadith when a man divorces his wife, he cannot re-marry her until she marries and gets divorced again with another man. Please show me a hadith that honours women and treat them equally with men and compare that to the true words of Allah below:

    “For Muslim men and Muslim women, and believing men and believing women, and obedient men and obedient women, and truthful men and truthful women, and patient men and patient women, and men with humility and women with humility, and for men who give charity and women who give charity, and men who fast and women who fast, and chaste men and chaste women, and for men who remember God much and women who remember God much,- for them, God has prepared forgiveness and great reward.” [Quran 33:35]

    Do you see how Allah talks about both men and women equally in the Quran? Please compare that to Hadith where a woman is just a commodity not to be trusted or even respected.

    for the record, i hate the word quranist…i prefer just muslim as Allah called us in his holy book…Sunnis, Shias, Sufis, Alevis…they seperated from true Islam because of hadith and we all stand before Allah on judgement day to account for our beliefs and actions, but Allah warned us in the Quran not to use excuses like we followed our forefathers, the community or even the scholars…it will not be accepted.

  60. Masha Allah, what an inspiring article! May Allah help us to implement all this virtues.

  61. Muhammed was just the deliverer of Quran , a human being and he denied that he can guide because god guides and teaches the quran | April 1, 2017 at 11:40 am |

    Quranists are happy to not be a part of the mainstraim Islam. There was not such a thing as Sunni Islam in the time of the Prophet, it was the first sect and God said that Muhammed has nothing to do with those who divide in sects.

    Hadiths are not written by the same Sunnis (people like you) who wrote the Quran, they were written 250 years after the death of Muhammed. Your hadith collections contradict the Quran and hadiths contradict themselves.

    An example of that is that Omar was obviously a Quranist. Hadiths claim that he said to Muhammed: the Quran is enough between us. Another hearsay and contradicting with the rest.

    If it’s not from God, you will therein many contradictions!

    Muhammeds sole duty was to deliver and follow Quran (himself) just like the other prophets. The Quran states that all prophets are equal and that they should be seen as equal.

    You don’t follow that command because you only follow the traditions of Muhammed and not of Jesus. I guess you think: but that’s because there is no trustworthy source of the deeds of Jesus and the Bible/New Testament is fake and changed.

    Yes, that’s true. But the same goes for the Hadiths. A lot of the hadiths have been deleted. Therefore it also changed.

    God said: “This is the Book about which there is no doubt.” There was and is surely doubt about the hadiths. God also said: “Don’t be among those who doubt.”

    Sunnis say that Muhammed has predicted the future in the Hadiths and that he has peformed miracles, but Muhammed has made clear that he is a just a human being who didn’t knew what would happen in the future and with himself.

    Jesus followed Gods revelation.
    Muhammed followed Gods revelation.
    Abraham and Moses followed Gods revelation.

    You follow the Prophet by following that which has been revealed to Muhammed [Quran], because that was what Jesus and Abraham also followed. They followed no one but God.

    And if you follow them you follow God and it’s the only way to make no difference between the prophets of God. If you place one higher then the other [by literally following everything he is said to have said or done — again: hadiths are hearsay] you disobey God and Muhammed.

    But God misleads not except the disobient.

  62. The essence of loving the prophet Muḥammad (SAW)
    loving the Prophet (SAW) comes with having a strong belief that his Sunnah and most importantly his sayings are important to us, he is the one who has started the din of islām and he will be the one whom we shall follow until the day of judgement. In order for one to love the Prophet (SAW) one should follow his footsteps because Allah (SWT) has made it clear that he has created for Muslims a perfect role model and the best of example for all of us to follow. so who are we to decline the best of role model and to follow these worldly materialistic things?
    Allah says in the holy qur’ān:
    لَقَدْ كَانَ لَكُمْ فِي رَسُولِ اللَّهِ أُسْوَةٌ حَسَنَةٌ لِمَنْ كَانَ يَرْجُو اللَّهَ وَالْيَوْمَ الْآخِرَ وَذَكَرَ اللَّهَ كَثِيرًا
    “In the messenger of Allāh you have a good example for him who have hope in Allāh and the last day, and remembers Allāh much”.
    Within this verse we can truly see that the Prophet (SWT) plays a very important role in every aspect of a Muslims life and it is very essential for one to allow oneself to understand that whoever loves the messenger of Allāh, they are valuing the immense favour of Allāh and whoever recognizes the tremendous value of Allāh’s favours will be given more as Allāh says in the holy qur’ān:
    وَإِذْ تَأَذَّنَ رَبُّكُمْ لَئِن شَكَرْتُمْ لَأَزِيدَنَّكُمْ ۖ وَلَئِن كَفَرْتُمْ إِنَّ عَذَابِى لَشَدِيدٌ
    “and when your lord announced: if you are grateful, I will give you more; but if you are not grateful, my punishment is severe”.
    Also, Allāh (SWT) bestows even greater favours upon us when one realizes the value of loving the Prophet Muḥammad (SAW). One should be aware that connecting with the Prophet (SAW) allow us to establish the connection between the relationship with Allāh.
    So in order to proof your love to Allāh one should love the Prophet (SAW) because indeed he is the best of role model that has been created by Allāh (SWT) and by loving the messenger of Allāh we are loving Allāh too, one should also accept the fact that following his footsteps mean that we are following his Sunnah and most importantly to accept hadith and to implement the prophet’s life in your own.
    Some people shall claim that the qur’ān is enough for them but they do not realize that they do not have any proof to serve it in shari’āh, their proof is rather not based on enough evidence to indicate that there is no need for hadith and the Sunnah of the prophet (SAW). These people are however known as Qur’ānist. People, these are the people who accepts qur’ān as revelation but rejects the religious authority and authenticity of Ḥadiṭh collections.

    is the qur’ān enough for us?
    The qur’ānist people shall reject the religious authority of hadith or the Sunnah because they do not agree with hadith as they agree with qur’ān they shall also claim that the qur’ān is enough for them and that there is no need for Ḥadiṭh or the Sunnah of the Prophet (SAW) which leave essential aspect of islāmic faith. This result in a huge capacity of debates and also conflict with the practicing of the din of islām. These people do not have any clue or idea whether their facts or their proof are enough to support their point within shari’āh. How can one claim that the qur’ān is enough? And they do not realize that the true roots of living the qur’ān is that they need to live their life as the prophet Muḥammad (SAW) and most importantly to follow his footsteps.
    Before one claim that the qur’ān is enough for us, one should question them by asking, have they read the qur’ān and also do they understand the precious language that Allāh (SWT) use within the holy Qur’ān.
    As Allāh (SWT) says in the holy Qur’ān:
    بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ وَالزُّبُرِ ۗ وَأَنزَلْنَا إِلَيْكَ الذِّكْرَ لِتُبَيِّنَ لِلنَّاسِ مَا نُزِّلَ إِلَيْهِمْ وَلَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ
    With clear proofs and writings; and we have revealed to you the remembrance that you may explain to mankind what has been revealed for them, and that perhaps they may reflect on this.
    This clearly tells us that the Prophet (SAW) has been sent down to humanity for a reason and he was sent only by Allāh to explain these verses of the Qur’ān. Already, this indicates to us that there is no reason for one to reject Ḥadiṭh because Allāh has sent the prophet (SAW) himself to mankind so that he can implement, demonstrate and most importantly teach humanity the verses of the holy qur’ān, these people should be aware that there is no such thing as qur’ānic interpretation, without the use of Sunnah and Ḥadiṭh.
    The qur’ān provides very essential factors and framework for all of humanity but the life of the prophet Muḥammad (SAW) and his Sunnah provides the more in depth details of that particular framework. Allāh (SWT) wants us to have this growth within us to long and to sustain our inner strength or faith to follow the qur’ānic teachings but these qur’ānist need to understand that the true ingredients of faith within one’s heart is the strength that comes out of the love that a believer should have towards Allāh and his messenger which means one needs to obey both Allāh and the Prophet (SAW). Like Allāh (SWT) says in the holy Qur’ān:
    يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا أَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُوا الرَّسُولَ
    Oh you who believe obey Allāh, and obey the messenger
    What comes to mind is, Allāh himself speaks about the high status of the prophet (SAW) and how one should obey him, so who are they (qur’ānist) to reject hadith but accept qur’ān? Do they not realize that to practice and accept the qur’ān they should practice and accept hadith too?

    When one looks at the 5 pillars of islām.
    for example, what comes to mind is that Allāh says in the qur’ān that in order to perform ṣolāh we need to have wudu and in order for wudu to be valid one should be clean from ḥadaṭh meaning, they should be pure from najaṣāh. But how does the quranist or the qur’āniyoon accept the fact that Allāh speaks about these particular things in the qur’ān but knowingly that the qur’ān does not explain how one should perform wudu? Or perform ṣolāh? Does this mean that if one does not accept Ḥadiṭh they will just automatically perform wudu and ṣolāh without having full knowledge and specific intentions including certain sequences of what to do, because one should remember that the qur’ān orders us to perform ṣolāh and to be in state of purification but does not explain and indicate to us how to do the proper sequences or to perform the sequences.
    To look at it in another way. yes, Allāh tells us to perform wudu, but what breaks wudu is told in the Sunnah and in the Ḥadiṭh of the prophet (SAW), and one should be aware that the time of each and every prayer that need to be perform isn’t told in the qur’ān. Again, how does one deny hadith but follow the qur’ān without having the knowledge on how to make ṣolāh, how do one know what breaks wudu and most importantly how do one follow the proper sequences to perform wudu or ṣolāh and when to perform ṣolāh.

    • The latest version of anti-hadith …they translated the Quran using their own mind and they don’t do all the 5 pillars of Islam let alone to understand the 6 pillars of Iman.

      So there is no point to explain from the Sunni perspective about any verse from the Quran… they won’t listen… to explain about ablution and how many rakaah in salah is immaterial to them because they don’t perform salah.

  63. It is funny that this site is called thinkingmuslim when the author doesnt even think. All he keeps saying is “found recently”. Some commenters raise valid points and he veers off topic. Like Allah stating in the Quran about “other hadiths”, doesnt that sort of rings a bell? That the book that people say supposedly compliments the Quran is called hadith? If that isnt enough sign, surely you are among the deaf, dumb and of those who have no sense.

    • Good of you, my brother, Qur’an alone always scattered their diluted evidences, with undefeatable verses,example they claimed to interpret Qur’an with hadith’s…. If it is right hadith’s itself would be straight bright and glaring ,but hadith’s is full of confusions very very dubious blurred clumsy and zigzagging….. How can such Himalaya of nonsense and Lie’s be a guidance for straight forward verses of Qur’an? You said Qur’an alone is a recent establishment, eheen ,so you are saying the Qur’an we followed is new? Even if the sect is new so far it was established on Qur’an the truth words of God and His prophet, no problem, wasn’t Jesus teaching new to the Pharisees and Sadducees? Even if we are 1% of the whole world that is not. a point to you …it is a good point to us ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,our little ness is an evidence in the Qur’an that says if you follow majority of people in this world they will misled you because they followed nothing unless mere conjecture,,,,,,,,,, you said hadith’s was written in partial list by individuals, are you not ashamed to say this? And you called yourselves a thinkingmuslim?well MY HAPPINESS IS HOW GOD PROMISED THE PROTECTION OF QUR’AN 15V9 AMONG ALL HADITH’S LEAVE US ALONE LET US FOLLOWED THE,BEST, DETAILED, EXPLAINED 11V2 AND DOUBTLESS ONE WHICH IS THE ONLY QUR’AN BUT WE ARE WARNING YOU BY FOLLOWING THE STUPIDEST STONING TO DEATH SATANIC JUDGEMENT,,,,,,,, YOU ARE TECHNICALLY SAYING THE QUR’AN IS IN COMPLETED AND YOU AND YOUR GOAT WILL FACE THE PANEL OF COUPING AGAINST THE BOOK OF GOD

  64. And to anon April 13, details to do wudu’ is in the Quran. You should read more of the Quran instead of copying and pasting.

  65. the question is @lets talk
    do you love the prophet muhammad SAW?

  66. another question when one has the intention to perform hajj or umrah, where do you get the knowledge of knowing how to perform it? is it explained in the quran or in the sunnah of the prophet (SAW)

  67. @lets talk, how long did the prophet (SAW) received revelation

  68. to your rational answer based on me not reading the quran right, have you not realize that the way you are reading the quran is far wrong then the way im reading it, because the last time i read it was everyday trying to live it with the backup of hadith . im not the one who reject hadith or the sunnah of the prophet , did you not read the verses where allah praises the prophet (SAW) , how ignorant can you be? at the ned of the day its not worth it to argue with me in debates but rather to understand that whatevere answer ill give you it is either based on hadith or quran cause i accept hadith and i accept quran and one can only do this by loving the prophet (SAW) have you not come across the verse where allah made mention by saying
    قُلۡ إِن كُنتُمۡ تُحِبُّونَ ٱللَّهَ فَٱتَّبِعُونِى يُحۡبِبۡكُمُ ٱللَّهُ وَيَغۡفِرۡ لَكُمۡ ذُنُوبَكُمۡ‌ۗ وَٱللَّهُ غَفُورٌ۬ رَّحِيمٌ۬ • قُلۡ أَطِيعُواْ ٱللَّهَ وَٱلرَّسُولَ‌ۖ فَإِن تَوَلَّوۡاْ فَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ ٱلۡكَـٰفِرِينَ surah , 3:31.
    “Say (O Muḥammād): “If you love Allāh, then follow me, Allāh will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is most Forgiving, Most Merciful”

  69. God Loves Those Who Follow Quran | April 20, 2017 at 3:06 pm |

    Lets talk – Indeed, the deaf, stumb and blind will never believe. They [Soenna Muslims] believe in some verses and reject others. They believe that they should follow the prophet, but they don’t believe that the Messengers only duty was delivering the messege. Muhammed followed only what was revealed to him [Quran].

    Anonymous, haven’t you read this?

    Muhammed only followed what was revealed to him and he is no more but a clear warner. His only duty was to deliver the Quran (46:9 and 10:15) Obey God and the Messenger: and if you disobey, know that the only duty of the messenger is the delivering of God’s messege. God does not love the disbelievers (64:12). Muhammed said that Quran is that what was reveleaed to him (6:19) He didn’t mentioned anything besides Quran!

    Quran is enough for those who believe: 4:48 5:3 5:44-46 5:48 5:49 5:87 6:21 6:38 6:112-113 6:114 6:115 6:144 7:33 7:185 9:31 10:15 15:9 16:64 16:89 16:116 17:41 18:27 18:57 20:124-126 22:52-53 24:18 25:30 25:43 31:2-6 41:42 42:21 45:6 56:78 66:1 85:21-22

    It’s just not enough for those who do not believe (Sunni/Shia). God hasn’t neglected anything in his Book. (6:38) You are so happy with your ummah but God is not. 42:21

    It is not for a human [prophet] that Allah should give him the Scripture and authority and prophethood and then he would say to the people, “Be servants to me rather than Allah,” but [instead, he would say], “Be pious scholars of the Lord because of what you have taught of the Scripture and because of what you have studied.”

  70. Three Versions in Hadith | April 21, 2017 at 5:33 am |

    The FIRST VERSION

    The Book of Allah and my Family:

    Narrated Jabir bin ‘Abdullah:

    “I saw the Messenger of Allah during his Hajj, on the Day of ‘Arafah. He was upon his camel Qaswa, giving a Khutbah, so he said: ‘O people! Indeed, I have left among you, that which if you hold fast to it, you shall not go astray: The Book of Allah and my family, the people of my house.’”

    Grade: Sahih (Darussalam)

    Jami` at-Tirmidhi

    Vol. 1, Book 46, Hadith 3786

    http://sunnah.com/urn/636690

    Narrated Zaid bin Arqam, may Allah be pleased with both of them:

    that the Messenger of Allah said: “Indeed, I am leaving among you, that which if you hold fast to them, you shall not be misguided after me. One of them is greater than the other: The Book of Allah is a rope extended from the sky to the earth, and my family – the people of my house – and they shall not split until they meet at the Hawd, so look at how you deal with them after me.”

    Grade: Sahih (Darussalam)

    Jami` at-Tirmidhi

    Vol. 1, Book 46, Hadith 3788

    http://sunnah.com/urn/636710

    The SECOND VERSION

    The Book of Allah and my Sunnah:

    Yahya related to me from Malik that he heard that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, “I have left two matters with you. As long as you hold to them, you will not go the wrong way. They are the Book of Allah and the Sunna of His Prophet.”

    Muwatta Malik

    Book 46, Hadith 3

    http://sunnah.com/urn/416890

    THE THIRD VERSION

    The Book of Allah:

    Third version, “I left for you what if you hold up to, you will never be misguided, the BOOK OF ALLAH.”

    Narrated by Jabir ibn Abdullah.

    I have left among you the Book of Allah, and if you hold fast to it, you would never go astray. And you would be asked about me (on the Day of Resurrection), (now tell me) what would you say? They (the audience) said: We will bear witness that you have conveyed (the message), discharged (the ministry of Prophethood) and given wise (sincere) counsel. He (the narrator) said: He (the Holy Prophet) then raised his forefinger towards the sky and pointing it at the people (said):” O Allah, be witness. 0 Allah, be witness,” saying it thrice.

    Sahih Muslim 1218 a

    Book 15, Hadith 159

    http://sunnah.com/muslim/15/159

    ==

    Hadith-followers, the Last Day will be terrible for you guys. Bye!

    • You don’t believe in hadiths remember? So technically, none of the above applies including following the Qur’an. Ahh contradictions, contradictions! No wonder you guys are laughing stock of the Muslim world.

      • Three Versions in Hadith | May 26, 2017 at 1:59 pm |

        I don’t believe in them, but this just proofs that there are three versions and that ‘sunnah’ is but one of them. It just proofs that it contradicts with each other. Don’t be among those who doubt.

        • Well you can keep selling that fairytale to yourself as much as you like it’s not going to make it any more true. Just because you see a contradiction doesn’t mean rest of the Muslim world does. In the same way when non-muslims attack the Quran and say that it contradicts itself it doesn’t make their statements true. Go ahead and do a Google search, they’ll quote you numerous verses of the Quran as contradictory.

          • The reasoning that the most popular view point must be correct is a logical fallacy. By that logic you @thethinkingmuslim should be a Christian because Christianity has the greatest number of followers. To be honest, you sound afraid of questioning the popular narrative which upon inspection finds no support in the Quran.
            ”No wonder you guys are laughing stock of the Muslim world”. It is unfortunate but the truth is mocked by the majority. Most of the Muslim world, unfortunately does not go by the Book of Allah, so their opinions are invalid. The joke is on them in the reality.

  71. Surah Al-Maeda, Verse 43:
    وَكَيْفَ يُحَكِّمُونَكَ وَعِندَهُمُ التَّوْرَاةُ فِيهَا حُكْمُ اللَّهِ ثُمَّ يَتَوَلَّوْنَ مِن بَعْدِ ذَٰلِكَ وَمَا أُولَٰئِكَ بِالْمُؤْمِنِينَ

    And how do they make you a judge and they have the Taurat wherein is Allah’s judgment? Yet they turn back after that, and these are not the believers.
    (English – Shakir)

    Surah Al-Maeda, Verse 44:
    إِنَّا أَنزَلْنَا التَّوْرَاةَ فِيهَا هُدًى وَنُورٌ يَحْكُمُ بِهَا النَّبِيُّونَ الَّذِينَ أَسْلَمُوا لِلَّذِينَ هَادُوا وَالرَّبَّانِيُّونَ وَالْأَحْبَارُ بِمَا اسْتُحْفِظُوا مِن كِتَابِ اللَّهِ وَكَانُوا عَلَيْهِ شُهَدَاءَ فَلَا تَخْشَوُا النَّاسَ وَاخْشَوْنِ وَلَا تَشْتَرُوا بِآيَاتِي ثَمَنًا قَلِيلًا وَمَن لَّمْ يَحْكُم بِمَا أَنزَلَ اللَّهُ فَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمُ الْكَافِرُونَ

    Surely We revealed the Taurat in which was guidance and light; with it the prophets who submitted themselves (to Allah) judged (matters) for those who were Jews, and the masters of Divine knowledge and the doctors, because they were required to guard (part) of the Book of Allah, and they were witnesses thereof; therefore fear not the people and fear Me, and do not take a small price for My communications; and whoever did not judge by what Allah revealed, those are they that are the unbelievers.
    (English – Shakir)

    Surah Al-Maeda, Verse 45:
    وَكَتَبْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ فِيهَا أَنَّ النَّفْسَ بِالنَّفْسِ وَالْعَيْنَ بِالْعَيْنِ وَالْأَنفَ بِالْأَنفِ وَالْأُذُنَ بِالْأُذُنِ وَالسِّنَّ بِالسِّنِّ وَالْجُرُوحَ قِصَاصٌ فَمَن تَصَدَّقَ بِهِ فَهُوَ كَفَّارَةٌ لَّهُ وَمَن لَّمْ يَحْكُم بِمَا أَنزَلَ اللَّهُ فَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمُ الظَّالِمُونَ

    And We prescribed to them in it that life is for life, and eye for eye, and nose for nose, and ear for ear, and tooth for tooth, and (that there is) reprisal in wounds; but he who foregoes it, it shall be an expiation for him; and whoever did not judge by what Allah revealed, those are they that are the unjust.
    (English – Shakir)

    These verses make it amply clear that those who do not judge by what Almighty Allah had revealed be it the Taurat, Injeel, or the Quran are indeed disbelievers. Allah did not tell the Jews to take judgement from some sunna of their prophets but that they should judge only by what Allah had revealed and the same order is given to our holy prophet and his followers.

  72. My brothers and sisters. It is is in your best interest to follow only what Allah has revealed for anything else would lead you into the path of Satan the accursed. The Muslim sects have deviated so far away from the pure monotheism that our Almighty Lord demands, they are in danger of following in tbe footsteps of Christians and other peoples before them. How of you have been in a mosque where the name of Almighty Allah is put next to the name of the prophet as if they were equal? Didn’t Allah say in the Quran:

    Surah Al-Jinn, Verse 18:
    وَأَنَّ الْمَسَاجِدَ لِلَّهِ فَلَا تَدْعُوا مَعَ اللَّهِ أَحَدًا

    And that the mosques are Allah’s, therefore call not upon any one with Allah:
    (English – Shakir)

    • Brother, I highly suggest you do a little research and find out when your SECT actually appeared. You are a recent phenomenon. No reputable scholar since the time of the companions has ever rejected hadiths as an institution.

      • Three Versions in Hadith | May 30, 2017 at 9:21 am |

        You should do some research. When did the Sunnah [and Sunnism] of Mohammed appeared? 250 years after this death. It’s a satanic innovation. There is NO SUNNAH OF THE PROPHET MUHAMMED.

        You will not find any alteration in the way of Allah (sunnat Allah) and you will not find any change in the way of Allah (sunnat Allah). (35:43)

        No such a thing as Sunnah of Mohammed. He followed the sunnah of Allah, which is in the Quran.

  73. Hijabiadventures | April 27, 2017 at 6:57 am |

    These comments are horrendous. I’ve been married nearly 4 years. The first year, I finished my Master’s degree (my husband has a bachelors), I had a part-time job, and still did housework. Afterwards, for the past 3 years, I have been the sole provider for my husband and I, working 8:30am-6:30pm, and I still had the ability to come home and help my husband with the housework, and take us on vacations to 6 different countries. Please men, why don’t you try telling me, again, why you can’t help your wife with housework and raising children with your little 9-5’s.

    • First thing you look up to is your job. Is it a mixed
      Job where there are men and women together?
      If yes, your husband needs to step up his game.
      And secondly, working is not a woman’s duty. Her’s is to take care of the households. That’s it! If you are a working woman, it’s already an issue.

  74. Beautiful translation. Jazakallah Khair!

  75. Very much needed
    Thank you

  76. Why is your only argument “Your sect is recent”?

    First of all, it’s not a sect.

    Second of all, don’t you see that that’s exactly what the Qur’an tells us NOT to do? It tells us not to follow what our forefathers did just because we don’t want to break tradition.
    “When it is said to them ‘Follow what Allah has revealed,’ they say ‘Nay, we follow what we found our fathers following.’ Even though their forefathers did not understand anything and were not guided?” [2:170]
    We need to think. Not follow like sheeple!
    “Do not follow that of which you have no knowledge” [17:36]
    When you blindly follow scholars and switch off your brain, you are going against this verse.

    Third of all, why do you have to be so arrogant? We can discuss our diverging opinions like civilised human beings, without you acting all scornful and superior.
    You claim to be on the right track, as opposed to our “deviating sect”, but then you forget the basic kindness and humility we, as Muslims, are supposed to show in our daily life.

    By the way, you still didn’t answer the question as to why the Qur’an says there is no compulsion in religion, but hadithists think it’s okay to totally ignore this verse coming from God, and accepting a hadith transmitted by a chain of men that says apostates should be killed.

    Or how they ignore the verse that says adulters should receive 100 lashes in favour of a hadith that tells us we should follow the example of monkeys (seriously?) and stone adulters.
    (Before you tell me lashing is for fornicators, not adulters, read 24:6).

    If you keep on refusing to think for yourself, all these comments trying to prove our points are useless. I know abandoning everything you’ve always believed to be true is hard, but would you rather live in a lie?

    Goodbye.

    • “Why is your only argument Your sect is recent?”

      Two reasons:

      1) Because it’s true.
      2) Because it irritates individuals from your sect. Perhaps at some subconscious level you guys realize that it really is true. And you bringing this up as the first point proves this point.

      “When you blindly follow scholars and switch off your brain, you are going against this verse.”

      The verse you quoted is talking about blindly following ancestors and traditions passed down without religious validation. It’s not speaking about legitimate religious based traditions. Otherwise, Qur’an was ALSO passed down and we follow blindly. If you’re going to reject hadiths because they were passed down by scholars, then you’re going to have to reject Qur’an as well. There are no two ways about it.

      “Why do you have to be so arrogant? We can discuss our diverging opinions like civilised human beings.”

      I’m harsh because individual from your Qur’anist sect are harsh. My original post was in response to a very annoying and cocky Qur’anist on reddit. I don’t have a problem discussing it in a civilized manner but your sect needs to show that it’s willing discuss the issue in a respectful manner. I’ve only met a handful Qur’anists online that are actually respectful when discussing the issue.

      “Why the Qur’an says there is no compulsion in religion, but hadithists think it’s okay to totally ignore this verse.”

      I can show you verses in the Qur’an which seem to indicate to kill disbelievers wherever you find them. They’re there and you can look them up on ANY islamophobic website. But those verses have specific context and understood through the lens of Prophetic example. In the same way, hadiths have context and need to be understood after gathering all the hadiths on the topic and plus examples of the companions and scholarly commentary. If you do that, you would find those hadiths are not as controversial as islamophobes or those who are effected by their false propaganda (Qur’anists) think.

      Do yourself a favor and buy the book Misquoting Muhammad by Dr. Jonathan Brown.

      Your last comment on adultery made no sense whatsoever neither did your verse quotation of 24:6. If have no idea what you are trying to say.

      “I know abandoning everything you’ve always believed to be true is hard, but would you rather live in a lie?”

      I don’t believe I’m in a lie. In fact, I know believing in hadiths is part and parcel Islam whether you accept it or not. It’s even in the Qur’an, which you claim to follow:

      And We did not send any messenger except to be obeyed by permission of Allah. [Qur’an 4:64]

      But no, by your Lord, they will not [truly] believe until they make you, [O Muhammad], judge concerning that over which they dispute among themselves and then find within themselves no discomfort from what you have judged and submit in [full, willing] submission. [Qur’an 4:65]

      He who obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah ; but those who turn away – We have not sent you over them as a guardian. [Qur’an 4:80]

      You need to really ask yourself. Why did your sect only come into existence in recent times? You guys have no history before the colonial period. You’re just a modern phenomenon. A result of Western propaganda.

  77. Seriously that’s so stupid… U ignoramuses who follow hadith are wrong, your also going to hell for following man. Quran is complete, god says so many times.

  78. May Allah bless you for your efforts. I would like to contribute to your blog by writing a similar academic article about practices of Ismailism. My blog is http://www.insideismailism.net or rethinkingismailism.com – let me know. Jazak Allahu Khairan.

  79. Brother Abu Ismail explains the Fiqh behind being a partner in a business and it’s responsibilities.

  80. Ansar Sultanul Qalam | August 19, 2017 at 6:21 pm |

    Salaam,

    I would respectfully point out that you have shown considerable unfamiliarity with the Ahmadi belief about prophethood. Your theological reasonings also seem to be self-conflicting. You speak of Rasulullah (saw) as the absolutely final/last prophet but in the same breath make an exception with regards to Jesus(as) who you readily admit is a “prophetic figure” who will “come after him”. In effect, you accept the possibility of an old prophet coming after Rasulullah(saw) but only reject the view that a new prophet will be born. Turns out, therefore, the Sunni view on Finality of Prophethood is not as absolute as they make it out to be. In fact, the Ahmadis are on stronger ground regarding the Finality of Prophethood because we believe no independent prophet whether an old one (like Jesus) or a new one can come after Rasulullah(saw). Mirza Ghulam Ahmad(as) never claimed to be a prophet in that sense, nor do Ahmadis believe him to be so. In his capacity as the promised Messiah and Mahdi his status is seen as that of a prophet by way of “zill” (reflection) of Rasullullah(saw), reflecting his prophetic qualities, and not a prophet in his own right like Jesus(as) or Moses(as). Both the “Qadiani” and “Lahori” groups believe this, but while the former believe that this still means that he was an actual prophet, the latter believe that it doesn’t and that he was only a prophet in an allegorical sense. In any case, it would be extremely unjust, therefore, to liken him to Musaylimah or other such claimants who claimed prophethood independently of Rasulullah(saw).

    You rightly say that “language is taken literally unless proven otherwise”, well Ahmadis do prove otherwise, or at least claim to do so, but that is another discussion. As a principle if you read Ahmadi Tafasir, most interpretaions do not replace literal meanings but are made in addition to them. Verse 33:40 is not taken metaphorically, “Khatam” literally means “seal”.

    You are also demonstrably wrong in believing that Jesus(as) will not be coming as a prophet. The Ahadith clearly call him a prophet, Sahih Muslim, kitabul fitan, while speaking of his future advent calls him “nabi-ullah” (prophet of Allah) four times in a single narration. similarly Sunan Abi Dawud Kitab Al-Malahim records Rasulullah(saw) saying regarding Jesus’ future advent: “There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus. He will descent (to the earth)”. With these clear indications of his prophecy, how can you say he will lose his prophethood upon return?

    The criticism that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad(as) made his claims gradually as his popularity grew ignores to facts. (1) that the claims of Rasulullah(saw) as to the sphere of his mission were also made gradually and were not revealed all at once, and the Christians to this day level this criticism against him too. (2) that as his following grew, so did the opposition against him, and the fact that he continued to make bolder successive claims in in the face of stronger opposition with each claim is a sign of sincerity.

    As for the challenge with Sanaullah Amristari, you’ve totally twisted the facts, even by the standards of irshad.org, the source that you cite. It wasn’t Abu’l-Wafa’ who challenged him to a Mubahila, that the liar die within the lifetime of the truthful. It was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad(as) who initially challenged him. It is telling that irshad.org has nothing to say on Abu’l-Wafa’s response. That is because he didn’t accept Ghulam Ahmad’s (as) challenge. In fact he reversed it, saying the that liars outlive the truthful like Musaylimah outlived rasulullah(saw). so Sanahullah actually became the target of his own reversed mubahila and died after Ghulam Ahmad(as).

    I would suggest you consult Ahmadi sources directly to understand our beliefs instead of relying on unreliable sources such as wikipedia or irshad.org.

    • First I’d like to say that thank you for actually reading it, because mos Ahmadis wouldn’t even read this post. I targeted it towards a non-Ahmadi crowd. Here is my brief response to your arguments:

      1. “considerable unfamiliarity with the Ahmadi belief about prophethood” – Nothing you have stated to clarify your position is what I didn’t already know. You just said the same things I said your beliefs were but in your own wording.

      2. “an exception with regards to Jesus(as) who you readily admit is a “prophetic figure” who will “come after him”” – Let’s buy your argument that Jesus will still be a prophet after his return. Ok, so what? That doesn’t prove anything. We believe that to be true because the Prophet Muhammad, pbuh, explicitly mentioned him by name and said so. He didn’t mention Mirza Ghulam Ahmad by name. If you can find me that hadith where he is explicitly mentioned by name, then us mainstream would be more than happy to change our minds. We believe whatever the Prophet told us. He said there will be no prophet after him and that those who claim prophethood after him are liars, then this is how it is, so end of story. MGA claimed prophethood explicitly.

      3. “claims of Rasulullah(saw) as to the sphere of his mission were also made gradually” – And, what does this prove? This doesn’t help your case. Prophet Muhammad, pbuh, was explicit from the very beginning that he is a prophet and messenger of God. This is not the case with MGA. He contradicts himself and gradually graduates himself to higher and higher roles. This is not the same as sphere of mission gradually increasing. The two are entirely different things.

      4. “unreliable sources such as wikipedia or irshad.org” – I’ve personally met the owner of irshad.org years ago, and he has a very good grounding in Ahmadi belief and not to mention that many ex-Ahmadis, who are now sunnis, acknowledge his website as an accurate representation of their beliefs. In fact, some of them even helped him with the research if I recall. Pretty much all of their sources are original Ahmadi sources. As for Wiki, I linked to it because most people will not read books or go to original sources, rather, wiki is usually correct with basic information on a topic. Can you quote something in my article that I linked to wiki which is absolutely wrong? I also have a friend who is now sunni and an ex-Ahmadi, and much of what is stated above is nothing different than what he has told me. If you want original sources from Ahmadis shown, then the reddit link I put up at the end of the article is nothing but full of it.

      I don’t expect you to take these arguments. It’s natural to safeguard and be protective over your beliefs and reject anything contrary to it. But all I have done is put up a general and basic article on the Sunni perspective and why we reject the Qadiani doctrine.

  81. Ansar Sultanul Qalam | August 22, 2017 at 7:37 pm |

    1. Saying that Ahmadis take verse 33:40 metaphorically is simply not true, saying that Ahmadis believe in a prophet after Muhammad (saw) is an over-simplification, and the statement: “His followers believe that new prophets after Muhammad (pbuh) can come but that they must be subordinate to Muhammad (pbuh)” is not an accurate presentation of Ahmadi Beliefs. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) described the nature of his prophethood, which by the way, was not even his central claim, by way of “zill” (shadow) and “buruz” (reflection) of Rasulullah(saw) and certainly not a prophet in his own right like Jesus(as) or Joseph(as) or Hud(as). We agree that anyone who believes in an independent prophet after Muhamamd (saw) is not a Muslim. Also, it is wrong to say that Ghulam Ahmad (as) was a prophet “after” Muhammad (saw) because there is no “after” him. We’re still living in Muhammad’s (saw) prophetic era that will remain until the Day of Qiyamah. This is what was meant (in our understanding) by Rasulullah(saw) saying: “The time of my Advent and the Hour are like these two fingers.” Putting his index and middle fingers together (Sahih Bukhari, Kitabul Tafsir); and by Abu Bakr Siddiq(ra) saying upon his(saw) death: “By Allah, Allah will never cause you to die twice. As for the death which was written for you, has come upon you” (Sahih Bukhari, Kitabul Maghazi). This rules out an Israelite prophet (Jesus) coming in between. Now given the above, comparing Ghulam Ahmad’s (as) claim to that of Musaylimah Kazzab is shamelessly unjust. Musaylimah’s claim was to be a prophet on par with and independent of Rasulullah(saw). Ghulam Ahmad’s (as) claim was of receiving the gift of prophecy through perfect obedience to and “fana fil-rusul” (self-effacement) in Rasulullah(saw). This is a crucial nuance which you’ve ignored in this blog. If you knew it then basic decency would demand that you express it and save misleading your readers.

    2. If you accept that Jesus(as) will remain a prophet when he returns, this means that (a) your concept of Muhammad’s (saw) finality is not absolute or unqualified since Jesus(as) would be the last prophet to live, to walk the earth and to die, and Rasulullah(saw) only the last to be born a prophet. That necessarily adds qualification to his finality; and (b) it would mean that the difference between Ahmadis and other Muslims does not concern the issue of prophethood but that of the identity of the expected messianic figure, since both groups believe his status would be that of a prophet, only you await an old prophet to return while Ahmadis contend that figure was to come from within Islam. If you don’t change the reasoning of this blog, therefore, your position is both theologically flawed and hypocritical. Jesus’s(as) continuity as a prophet, therefore, is not something that can be simply dismissed by ‘so whats’. Remember that Ahmadis in Pakistan are ostracised from Islam precisely for rejecting the “absolute” and “unqualified” finality of Muhammad (saw).

    3. I’m not trying to prove anything. Just pointing out that this criticism is strikingly similar to that made by Christians against Rasulullah’s(saw) gradually expanding the sphere of his mission as a sign of his falsehood, God forbid.; and the fact that it overlooks the concomitant growth in hostility

    4. As to your quite flimsy attempt to defend your questionable sources, Islamophobes and ex-Muslims also tout the likes of Robert Spencer and Ayan Hirsi Ali as having “a very good grounding ” in Islamic beliefs and as presenting “an accurate representation” of Islamic beliefs. Moreover their works also cite original Islamic sources from the Qur’an and hadith. I’m sure we would agree on how trustworthy these people are. They only spread on-sided propaganda and ex-Muslims fall prey to it. You can trust an ex-Ahmadi as much as you can an ex-Muslim generally. I would judge what comes from the likes of irshad.org and ex-Ahmadis likewise and I have good reason to do so. I’ve already shown you how disingenuous that site has been regarding the challenge with Sanaullah Amritsari. Why it is silent on his response to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s (as) challenge to Mubahila is because he never accepted it on the terms that the liar die within the lifetime of the truthful. Instead, as published in his journal “Ahl-e-Hadeeth” he changed the condition in light of the Qur’anic verses 2:15 and 19:75 and the fact that Musaylimah lived longer than Rasulullah(saw). that the liar live longer than the truthful, and then became a target of his own reversed mubahila.

    In the end I leave you with two sources which would clarify for you the Ahmadi position on the issue of prophethood.

    https://www.alislam.org/books/misunderstandingremoved.html

    https://www.alislam.org/library/books/With-Love-to-Muhammad.pdf

    • Here is be brief response to your arguments:

      1 – Ok, I have read your arguments and I understand what you are trying to say and at the end of the day you still consider him to be a prophet. Mainstream Muslims don’t differentiate between an independent or dependent prophet, though not sure how this differs from my ‘subordinate’ argument in the article. A prophet is anyone who receives divine revelation from Allah. MGA made claims to it and his followers believe that he received divine revelation. What you are describing is similar to previous prophets that did not come with any new law but followed the law of the prophet that was sent before them like David or Solomon. This is still prophethood and is unacceptable to mainstream Muslims and kicks that person out of the fold of Islam. So again, we don’t care if he was not an independent prophet according to Ahmadis. As long as he is considered a prophet, then such a person will not be accepted by the mainstream because we have explicit verse in the Qur’an and numerous hadiths which indicate that there is no new prophet coming after Muhammad (pbuh).

      2 – Sorry but not a strong argument on your end. We restrict it to Jesus because the last prophet Muhammad (pbuh) EXPLICITLY named him that he will return. If someone were to say that Noah, Joseph, David, Moses, Abraham, Adam, etc. were to return, it would be rejected. This allowance is ONLY reserved for Jesus because he is mentioned by NAME in the texts. That is a HUGE difference. Again, show me a hadith where MGA is explicitly mentioned by name. Secondly, as the hadith in the article and numerous scholars have pointed out, he will return as a just ruler. Mainstream Muslims understand Islam by bringing all of the texts in the Qur’an and Hadiths together before developing rulings and beliefs, because some hadiths clarify others. We don’t isolate texts to fit our views as seems to be a practice among Ahmadis. Anyway, so this is not an identity issue but explicit hadiths and the Qur’an being clear that there is no new prophet coming after Muhammad, pbuh. Now, the Ahmadis can disagree with that all they want, at the end of the day their belief contradicts explicit Islamic law as laid down by Sharia, thus, they cannot be Muslims.

      3 – No comment

      4 – Even if I say fine ex-Ahmadis are unreliable, this wouldn’t change anything. The fact that Ahmadis believe in another prophet after Muhammad, pbuh, is sufficient to warrant an excommunication. That’s the crux of the matter. It doesn’t matter if they don’t consider him an independent prophet, because Sharia is very clear that a belief in any new prophet after Muhammad, pbuh, is a contradiction of the kalimah and will void the the person’s Islam. As for the the mubahila issue, then I am not aware of what you claim to be true. Every version I have heard or read states what I’ve mentioned in the article. You and I were not there so we cannot settle a historical account. You have your version and we have ours. Let historians duke that issue out.

      Anyway, the point of the article was to indicate why we cannot accept Ahmadis as Muslims and I feel it does the job. I’m not sure why Ahmadis have a problem with this because they, as well as MGA, also consider rest of the Muslims as kafirs. So it’s actually really hypocritical on their end. Yes some liberal Ahmadis try to get themselves out of it by saying that they don’t but I have trouble believing that since that’s not what their official books and leaders say. Check the reddit page I linked for more info and sources for that info. I quoted MGA as well in the article to hold such beliefs.

      Lastly, many of the Ahmadi activists online are stating their beliefs the same way as I have put above. In fact, some of the above I copied and pasted directly from their fb page. So perhaps you all need to have an internal conversation and figure out what does or does not represent your belief.

  82. It was easy to remember, Nice translate.

  83. meow al maliki al ashari | August 24, 2017 at 6:08 pm |

    “One of the important matters to which attention must be paid is that the guideline on the kind of seeking help that constitutes shirk (polytheism) is “asking of anyone other than Allah for that which no one can do except Allah.”

    As for seeking help from other created beings in matters that they are able to do, that has nothing to do with shirk at all.”

    This is what you have mentioned and with this, all of the Muslims are agreed whether they be the sufis or other than them. The difference between us and you is not on whether it is shirk to ask someone other than Allah for those things that are exclusive to Allah, we all agree this is shirk, where we differ is whether asking the dead for those things that the creation has the possible ability to grant is shirk or not. Like you mentioned ” subject to two conditions: that the one whose help is sought is alive and present, and that he is able to do that thing”, now these conditions are a matter of ijtihad and the issue of asking the dead to make dua for you or what is like that is an issue of fiqh that only connects itself to branch issues of the aqidah like whether the dead can hear or not. So we have no problem with someone considering asking the dead for anything to be haram but we do object to someone saying asking the dead for anything is shirk as this is baseless. Also in regard to if someone does actually ask something that would be shirk from the living or dead then the impediments of takfir still exist like and one should be careful of just jumping to takfir. With Allah is understanding may Allah bless you to understand the subtle differences between someone possibly having the ability, whether or not they have actually been granted that ability and something being impossible for the creation to have ability over (like forgiving sins).

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  85. Masha Allah. Jazak Allahu Khairan.

  86. Main Issue here was that There was no quran only followers during the time of Prophet.. My question is Do you oh Hadith followers have any proof that there is any proof that during the time of Prophet there was any hadith followers… nonesence.. If Prophet’s duty was to deliver the Message then he failed to deliver the message since there was no fully tact Hadith book as of Quran to date unaltered. Coz there was no hadith Prophet received.

    Further if you think there was no hadith rejectors as early as during or before Mr. Bukhari time.. Don’t you even ponder there was a group called Shia who rejected the hadith of Bukhari or whatever you call authenticated hadith and they have different hadith which you dont accept.. Arent they hadith rejectors and they lived during the period of Ali and even before…

    You are just proving with your volition that quran came through Hadith followers.. How do you authenticate it.. Did the Bible or Tora which is available now came to us through hadith followers? in which you proudly say the name of prophet is written. God says Quran proves them (Thora and Gospel) So these two books were brought to us to see what quran proves is from Hadith Followers.. So you think God didnt have any power or a solution other than these hadith followers. Allah the God says that Quran proves Thora and Gospel and God didnt say it proves Thulmud or bible, but god only mentions his books not man made books ..

    • Be more positive in thoughts.. There is no issue how a thing comes to another after long time but how truth the thing which has come is important.. instance…If you argue the quran came through Hadith followers, then it is the will of God… Same the father of Abrahim was a Rejector of truth, so we cant say the Muslims are born to a father of a Rejector of God… but it was the will of God that Abrahim to be born through Rejecting Person.

    • Your response is full of so much historical inaccuracies that I am shocked to think that you actually believe what you’re saying. Please do yourself a favor and read up on basic history of Islam and history of hadiths. Then we can talk.

  87. This was of good help..thank you

  88. what a great translation. mashallah. very helpful

  89. I’ve seen this complaint numerous times, however, it must also be borne in mind that no matter how eloquent the speaker is,that is not the object. There are many shuyookh who speak very well and grab the attention of the audience yet their libaas is not sunnah,not even on a Jum’ah. Whereas there are others who speak in the most simple manner yet they move hearts to action,because their hearts are illuminated with the nur of Allah. Don’t reduce the khateeb to just an entertainer

  90. after prosecution of iran, zoroastrian accepted islam only to fool the muslims. their only intention was to defame islam and incite other communities to fight with muslims…..thats what they are doing today their faith is all about hating and cursing islam,…we can trust hindus. we can be friend with christian but never with these shias, and ahmedia,….only faithful people are sunni muslim, hindus, christian and jews. dont believe a religion that curse other human being.

  91. JazakAllah khairan for sharing! We all should do this

  92. Khairul Anwar bin Muhammad Deen | December 3, 2017 at 11:42 pm |

    “These hadith rejectors will criticize the sunnis for relying on hadiths while it was these same sunnis who preserved the Qur’an generation after generation!”

    what an ABSOLUTE LIE… sunnis preserved the Quran??? Sunni’s? what sunnis?? who? Muhammad and Abu Bakar was not a Sunni?? they did not “preserved” the Quran??

    it is ALLAH ALONE who PRESERVED the QURAN.. you sunnis are only vessels that Allah used, as He used His Messenger to deliver the MESSAGE or THE RECITATION..

    YOU DONT have ANY SHARE with the PRESERVATION of QURAN. what you have contributed is ONLY what ALLAH allows you to do.. SO.. please dont be so arrogantly STUPID by saying SUNNIs preserved the Quran..

    Tell me then.. is JIBRAIL also a SUNNI?? VERY SICK MINDS of SUNNIS..

    May ALLAH protect me from the SUNNIS MIND BRAINWASHING..

    SubhanALLAH..

  93. Abdulkerim Husen Ousman | December 12, 2017 at 10:09 am |

    Masha Allah ,,,i learn many things from Tafser of Qur,an and Hadith,,,,i love to see always this page in shaa Allah ,,,,,

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  97. Babatunde Dhikirulai | April 5, 2018 at 3:49 pm |

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  98. Bungalalang | April 9, 2018 at 7:34 am |

    Debate still goes on???.. please follow quran only because hadith is design by jews who already corrupted torah & injil before..

    • Very nice conspiracy theory… but no thanks. We’re going to follow both.

      • Bungalalang | April 10, 2018 at 5:02 am |

        How u want to follow both?.. there are big different between the both quran & hadis..our prophet never ever wronged al quran..

        Quran not allowed jamak.. Allah instruct us to Take care very-very carefully our salat & should perform within specified time..if we unable even perform STANDUP & SUJUD..we were instructed to perform in Walk or riding or what ever we can, but salat MUST BE PERFORM!!.. when we are already secured we MUST PERFORM COMPLETE SOLAT..

        Quran not allowed JAMAK..

      • Bungalalang | April 10, 2018 at 5:12 am |

        Furthermore, solat in al quran is only 2 salat.. solatil fajri at very early morning & solatil isyak at evening just before darkness..so it is very-very rare for human lifestyle still busy at these time period.though, Allah allow us to perform in walking or riding .. Allah the most gracious..

    • Abdul Wahab | April 22, 2018 at 7:03 am |

      How dare the hadith follower/obeyer choose to pray according to hadith and left behind what Allah teach in al quran.

      Allah told us to end our prayer after PROSTRATION not with SALAAM.. Allah never mentioned even in a single word about SALAAM.

      From where SALAAM is infiltrate in muslim prayer. From my research .. actually SALAAM is from jews ortodox prayer..

      Our prayer should from al quran.. not from bible..or.. indeed hadith books is equal to bible ..the difference is bible stand alone not pair with torah or injil because Allah does’nt guard both kitab.. hadith bukhori cannot stand alone because Allah inheherit al quran to the ummah until qiamah..

      • Please educate yourself on the hadith preservation process. I don’t really bother arguing with hadith rejecters anymore. It’s not worth it. Read up on all the links above. If you don’t have time, then review this: https://ahadithnotes.com/2018/03/19/the-preservation-of-the-%E1%B8%A5adith-literature/

        • You claim that the Hadith and the Quran were preserved in the same way, right? Then tell me, why all those that take the Hadith as an additional source of law do not differentiate the Quraanic verses as sahih or daif? I mean they do the same with the Hadith, so why do not they not do it with the Quran, which according to them was preserved through the same source, so must be subject to the same authenticity checks?
          It is because the hadith followers do not even truly believe in their own claim. Furthermore, why is Bukhari hailed as such a great man in the Sunni sect, when he questioned the authenticity of the Hadith?I mean according to you, questioning authenticity of Hadith is actually questioning authenticity of the Quran. And that too he did after being born (according to historical reports) 810 AD, more than a century later.
          You also claim that no one in history, ever questioned the Hadith. Well that is a wrong statement. Let us see the evidence for my claim:
          (1) From Ibn Hanbal;
          Zayd Ibn Thabit (The Prophet’s closest revelation writer) visited the Khalifa Mu’aawiyah (more than 30 years after the Prophet’s death), and told him a story about the Prophet. Mu’aawiyah liked the story and ordered someone to write it down. But Zayd said. ” the messenger of God ordered us never to write anything of his hadith”.
          (2) The famous book, “Ulum Al-Hadith” by Ibn Al-Salah, reports a hadith by Abu Hurayra in which Abu Hurayra said the Messenger of God came out to us while we were writing his hadiths and said; “What are you writing?” We said, “hadiths that we hear from you, messenger of God.” He said, “A book other than the book of God?” We said, “Should we talk about you?” He said, Talk about me, that would be fine, but those who will lie will go to Hell. Abu Hurayra said, we collected what we wrote of hadiths and burned them in fire.
          (3) In the famous book, “Taq-yeed Al-Ilm”, Abu Hurayra said, the Messenger of God was informed that some people are writing his hadiths. He took to the pulpit of the mosque and said, “What are these books that I heard you wrote? I am just a human being. Anyone who has any of these writings should bring it here. Abu Hurayra said we collected all these and burned them in fire.

          (4) Ibn Hanbal in his Musnad book, narrates a hadith in which Abdullah Ibn Omar said, “the Messenger of God one day came out to us as if he was going to depart us soon and said, “When I depart you (die), hold to the book of God, prohibit what it prohibits and accept as halal what it makes halal.”
          (5) Again, in the book “Taq-yeed Al-Ilm”, Abu Saeed Al-Khudry said, ” I asked the Messenger of God a permission to write his hadiths, but he refused to give me a permission.”
          (6) There are three versions of this sermon in the hadiths books. This by itself reflects the degree of inconsistency of the hadith books as this is the most witnessed speech of Prophet Muhammed.
          1- First version, ” I left for you what if you hold on to, you will never be misguided, the book of God and my family. Moslim 44/4, Nu2408; Ibn Hanbal 4/366; darimi 23/1, nu 3319.
          This is the version upheld by the Shia Muslims.
          2-Second version, “I left for you what if you hold on to, you will never be misguided, the book of God and my sunnah” . Muwatta, 46/3
          3- Third version, “I left for you what if you hold on to, you will never be misguided, the book of God.” Moslim 15/19, nu 1218; Ibn Majah 25/84, Abu dawud 11/56
          So many logical fallacies in the Hadith followers arguments… not to mention the contradictory reports and the blatant rejection of 6:114-6:115,7:2-7:3, 5:48, 6:89, 66:1 and 11:1.

  99. Bungalalang | April 10, 2018 at 5:35 am |

    I didnt create any conspiracy theory here.. i only bringing here story or warning from Allah to our beloved prophet mentioned in quran..

    ” Allah reminding our prophet, do u (muhammad) believe that your message to them can be obey by them succesfully! While among them is already CORRUPTED the kitab that we sent before??”

    Who are they???.. ahli kitab torah.. jews..

  100. hacer balkaya | May 4, 2018 at 12:01 am |

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  104. Assalamu alaikum,
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    • The Thinking Muslim | June 19, 2018 at 12:54 pm |

      WS,

      I am glad you found it helpful! Yes, there is an overflow of Islamic courses online and it can be quite daunting to get through it and figure out which best suits you. I’ve had my share of enrolling and dropping out of various courses because there was no clear guide as to how the program actually runs. You have to do trial and error which wastes a lot of time and money. I’m hoping more students will write thorough reviews of other Islamic institutions.

  105. Those who reject the Hadith as a source of law in Islam are those who are following the message of the Messenger. The evidence of this lies in the Quran itself.
    “Then is it other than Allah I should seek as judge while it is He who has revealed to you the Book explained in detail?” And those to whom We [previously] gave the Scripture know that it is sent down from your Lord in truth, so never be among the doubters”.(6:114)
    ”A Book revealed to you– so let there be no straitness in your breast on account of it– that you may warn thereby, and a reminder close to the believers.Follow what has been revealed to you from your Lord and do not follow guardians besides Him, how little do you mind”.(7:2-3)
    The Quran was the ONLY thing revealed to the Prophet.We are all to follow the Book of Allah.
    ”And on the day when We will raise up in every people a witness against them from among themselves, and bring you as a witness against these– and We have revealed the Book to you explaining clearly everything, and a guidance and mercy and good news for those who submit”.(16:89)
    For those that falsely claim that the Hadiths are a clarification, 16:89 clearly says ”…and We have revealed the Book to you explaining clearly everything…”
    No where in the Book of Allah does Allah vouch for the Hadith. As for the so called scholars who argue for the Hadith, they are unworthy of being relied upon. They claim that the Quran is not fully detailed, complete or clear. As a result they openly reject 6:114, 11:1, 6:115.
    In fact the Prophet himself was asked to judge by the Book.
    And We have revealed to you the Book with the truth, verifying what is before it of the Book and a guardian over it, therefore judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their low desires (to turn away) from the truth that has come to you; for every one of you did We appoint a law and a way, and if Allah had pleased He would have made you (all) a single people, but that He might try you in what He gave you, therefore strive with one another to hasten to virtuous deeds; to Allah is your return, of all (of you), so He will let you know that in which you differed;(5:48)
    If the Hadith literature is pure then why do we find rulings, such as women cannot travel for Hajj without mahram, prohibition on men wearing silk and gold and killing of dogs amongst other rulings, which clearly have no basis in the Quran. Some rulings contradict fellow hadith and some directly contradict the Quran.
    Also, this claim that the Quran was preserved via the same people who preserved the Sunna is false. The greatest evidence of this lies in the contradictory reports found in hadith and the fact that even those that claim this divide the hadith into sahih and daif categories, but do not do the same with the Quran. If these people truly believe their own claim, then why do they not use the same authenticity checks with Quraanic ayaat?
    The truth is that Allah has preserved the Book, but did not talk about preserving the Hadith. How Allah preserved His book is something only known to him.
    As for obeying Allah and obeying the Messenger, well, obeying the Messenger IS only following the Quran as a source of law, this http://www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/misinterpreted_verses/_obey_god_(P1245).html explains it perfectly well.
    There is much more evidence against the Hadith, but for now I think the above is enough.
    On a leaving note, I would like to impress that what most ”Muslims” follow is not necessarily correct. The logic that the most popular view point must be correct is a logical fallacy.
    May Allah guard us against the fitnah of Hadith.Ameen.

  106. @thethinkingMuslim
    I have indeed gone over the entirety of your article and all the links you have provided. I did not read your article for the first time yesterday.I, in fact read it several months ago, but decided to comment yesterday and today.
    None of my points have been refuted by your article or any of the links that you sent. If they had been I would commented in agreement with you or simply not commented at all.
    The truth as hard as it is to bear for mainstream Muslims is that the Quran is the only source of law and it is a fully detailed book.
    All of the points which the Hadith followers come up with are refutable and I have provided much evidence for that. By your writing, you sound like a member of the irrational Salafi sect.
    Your main argument is that because most Muslims follow the Hadith, it is correct to follow the Hadith. This is the worst argument ever. How is popularity of opinion a justification for it’s validity?? What is mainstream is not necessarily correct .Kindly try to understand this critical reality.The scholars and sahaba were not infallible people and in the historical accounts even the sahaba voiced their doubts regarding the hadith.
    Those who want to follow the Hadith will always come up with excuses and turn their back on the truth. I hope that one day you will accept the truth in this world, either way you will be forced to accept it on the Day we are all raised.

    • The Thinking Muslim | June 27, 2018 at 4:04 pm |

      *Yawn* keep telling yourself these conspiracy theories.

      But I just came to say that you just made my day! The fact that you came back to my page after a few months to comment tells me that my article is having the effect that I originally intended on you guys. So am really happy about that! I feel rejuvenated!

      You guys drive most of the traffic to my website. So thank you for that as it has gotten me a higher rank on Google! I don’t really care if you become convinced and rightly guided or not because that’s not up to me. That’s up to Allah. My purpose is to deliver the message of the REAL Islam as it was intended and not the one that was invented in the last century and has no precedent in our history. Your SECT is a new one. Just accept it.

      Lastly, you’ve given me some ideas on what to write about in the future on this very topic. So please do subscribe! Hoping to get even more traffic to the site that way.

      There is really nothing else to say because it’s all just repetitive with you guys. If you didn’t get your answers from the above links or this comment thread, then you’re either lying about reading the suggested materials above from cover to cover (do you really expect me to believe you ordered and paid for some of the books suggested and read them completely), or you just didn’t understand what you were reading due to intellectual deficiency. I’ll give you the benefit of doubt and say it is the former.

      As for the Day we are all raised, don’t worry because we the mainstream are pretty confident about this one, so no worries. But ya’ll got some serious introspection to do.

      Peace!

  107. It truly is sad how the Hadith followers insult the word of God and cannot accept that the strength of their arguments is like the weakness of the spider’s home. All of your arguments have been debunked, whether you accept that or not will not change the reality.
    You may call my arguments repetitive but that does not take away their credibility.The Hadith followers can argue left and right, but the fact that the Hadith followers take a source of law besides the Quran shows that they do not trust the Book of Allah to provide them guidance.
    Another point which I must address are your claims that I follow a sect. I must tell you that I don’t follow a sect, rather I follow what Allah has revealed. I have not been influenced by Western thought, but rather by in depth reading of the Quran itself. Couple that with the contradictory nature of Hadith and any thinking person comes to the conclusion that the Quran is the only source of uncorrupted divine guidance.
    The only reason why I even bother arguing with you is that I do not want to be asked by Allah on the Day of Judgement that why I did not spread His message when I saw people going against it.

    • Tia Laguenouni | April 21, 2019 at 6:15 pm |

      Very good response. I must say. Here is another premise. Ayat that says if any other book had not come from Allah, within it there would be much contradiction. Now, Do the collection of hadiths have contradictions? The answer is yes, and MUCH. By the premise set by Allah, they cannot be from Allah has a divine source of anything. Also sunnis did not protect the Quran, Allah did, he says so in Quran. End of story. Much more arguments to be made But I really see no difference in Sunni and Shia theology of attempting to make mere man infallible and their works divine.

      • The Thinking Muslim | April 22, 2019 at 10:18 am |

        What you talking about? That was NOT a good response. It was a typical weak, defensive response. The person doesn’t speak a lick of Arabic. People who claim to understand the Qur’an at a deeper level without a lick of Arabic are completely full of it.

        And your claim about hadiths contradicting has already been addressed in other comments. It is also a very weak argument and a person making it doesn’t understand the nature or science of hadith. In the same way Qur’an has seemingly contradictory verses (there are numerous critical websites on Islam speaking on this) that can be reconciled, the hadiths that have gone through rigorous authentication have seemingly contradictory reports that can be reconciled.

        Allah used the SUNNIS to protect and preserve the Qur’an. Your people were no where to be found. Your sect mainly came about as a movement in the recent era.

  108. Not specifically this program but Jazakha’Allahu khairian for this sites

  109. Maa Shaa Allah. This was very helpful to me for my Assignment. Jazzak Allah Khair

  110. Masha Allah, excellent article. The struggle is real. One step at a time. Only those in the field really understands this. Jazzak Allahu khairan for sharing.

  111. MashaAllah thank you for the review. I am always skeptical about “online” university. Initially, I planned to enrol myself in IOU to get myself certified with a BA Arabic. Simply because I would want to leave my secular 9-5 job as a software developer and contribute to the Muslim community in my own country. Though I wasn’t sure if IOU accreditation is legit?

    But after reading your post, then I renewed my goal to simply want to understand the Quran and not care about the certifications at all.

    Syukran wa jazakallahu khairan.

  112. Thank you. Alhamdulillah. May Allah bless us all.

  113. Yes they are the most common mistakes which you’ve shared.

  114. As salamu alaykum,

    I just had one concern: would using the ESA account or IRA stuff involve any interest? Or would it include participating in haram industries?

    (I’m outside the US so I can’t use either anyway, but asking just for the record)

  115. Why would ALLAH SubhanawataaLla punish Musa as and Haroun as? The two men in that mentioned verse are Musa as and Haroun as. Yusha is just another biblical figure who “Muslims” adopt to suit their understanding of the Scripture.

    • The Thinking Muslim | August 25, 2018 at 11:40 am |

      Sorry the ummah of Muhammad (pbuh) won’t give into incoherent conspiracy theories.

  116. Barry Harrison | August 26, 2018 at 8:18 am |

    Cultural differences often cause confusion but Alah knows best, follow the words of God.

  117. Bungalalang | August 27, 2018 at 2:17 am |

    Why we need to be very complicated in understanding “khusuk”.. Allah come up with something opposite with khusyuk…

    Khusyuk opposite with negligence.. negligence in our heart.. what we recite/glorify Allah does not synchronize with our mind & heart…

  118. Where does Al-Munsr belong in the successors of Muhammed?

  119. Salam! Thank you for your review! I just wanted to ask, how did you feel towards the quizzes? I’m having some struggles with some of them, yet I understand the lecture I read all the prescribed pages. Like some quizzes I do so good and others it is like I do so bad. I’m only 2 weeks in the school now. And I’m very stressed but happy about the knowledge that I’m reviving. Also at times, did you feel that the amount of different courses was over whelming? Since the topics were so different?

    • The Thinking Muslim | September 14, 2018 at 11:39 am |

      WS,

      Firstly, are you taking notes? You must take notes for both reading assignment and lecture. That’s the only way it’s going to stick!

      Secondly, doing bad in some of the quizzes is normal. It’s a learning process. As long as you’re not doing horrible on a large amount of quizzes to the point that it may result in failing the class, you should review the bad quizzes and figure out what and why you got the question wrong and learn from it. After a while you will begin to recognize a pattern with different professors and what they ask on the quiz so that when you are going over the lesson you will say to yourself, “this will most likely be on the quiz so I better write it down and memorize it.”

      Thirdly, make sure that you are not taking too many classes. I was at one point taking 6 classes per semester. It was a bit too much and it was impacting my grade. Everyone has a different threshold for pressure but mine is 4 classes max per semester so make sure you stay under your threshold.

      Lastly, it is normal to feel overwhelmed in the beginning especially if the info is new to you but your brain should start picking it up after a while. If you still feel overwhelmed after half way through the semester, then it probably means you are taking too many classes that are beyond your threshold so reduce the amount of classes the following semester. I believe IOU also has a period of time where you can drop a class and not be penalized for it.

      Hope the above helps! May Allah grant you success and sincerity in the quest for this sacred knowledge!

  120. Alexander Hildebrandt | September 19, 2018 at 4:40 pm |

    Narrated Abu Huraira:I heard the truthful and trusted by Allah (i.e., the Prophet) saying, “The destruction of my followers will be through the hands of young men from Quraish.”

  121. Assalam u Alaikum

    Thank you so much for providing such wonderful information
    can you tell me the job opportunities that come along with this university. I am actually planning to pursue for Islamic Economic Banking and finance in this university but i am bit nervous of the fact that whether my degree would be recognized by well reputed countries or not .

    • The Thinking Muslim | September 25, 2018 at 8:28 am |

      WS,

      I am glad you liked the review!

      This is something you will need to investigate yourself in your country or the country in which you wish to reside. The IOU university is accredited through the Somali government. Here is what it says on IOU’s website:

      “The Government of Somalia’s Ministry of Culture and Higher Education has granted a university license to the Islamic Online University, adding it to its list of accredited universities in Somalia which are recognized by the UN and therefore recognized by accredited universities globally.”

      You can read more on it here: https://islamiconlineuniversity.com/accreditation/

      Therefore, you will need to research different countries to see if they recognize such accreditation. It’s going to vary and not all places are going to accept it.

      I hope it all goes well for you insha’Allah. Whatever you decide, just make sure you do istikhara before moving forward.

      Thanks for commenting!

  122. Great post. Can you also do this for hajj?

  123. Hello, thank you for the guide, am curious is Robinhood halal? Or does it involve riba?

    • The Thinking Muslim | October 7, 2018 at 11:52 am |

      Robinhood is just a service to buy and sell stocks. So it is halal as long as you use it to buy halal stocks.

  124. Chousein Cole | October 22, 2018 at 10:53 am |

    A couple of comments,

    The use of ‘aql “for things which it can’t comprehend,” “reference of everything to it and acceptance of what agrees with it, rejection of what does not,” and “judgement of the revelation by it,” we also need to reverse this. Because Islamic modernism also does the opposite; it refers to the Qu’ran “for things which it cannot comprehend,” it uses its “spirit” to create laws which the Prophet (a.s.) never ordered, “references everything to it” and rejects of what is not contained within it, even though the Holy texts never attempt to regulate every part of life. This we get a novel, supposed Islamic “folklore,” which creates fake images of the past and tries to revive them into the present. ISIS is a prime such example, that even the West understands as Islamic (post-)modernism.

    Point 1) a) on where modernist go astray is partly wrong, because not all western philosophy of history is optimistic. Pessimistic philosophy of history exists (Nietzsche is a prime example) and can create better secular understandings of Islamic texts. These are never enough to make people follow the teachings of the Prophet (a.s.) as they should, but they can trigger a new, honest interest in the ways of the Almighty. Nonetheless, what they also do is render point 1) a) of this critique partly true at best. We can certainly admit that the historical understanding of the Prophet (a.s.) has not been erased by modernism, just distorted.

  125. Rubina Narwade | November 11, 2018 at 4:27 am |

    Excellent Allaahumma baarik

  126. Siddra Rehman | November 21, 2018 at 5:47 pm |

    Assalam u alaikum
    Your post is very good. Can you please tell me what does Athari creed mean? And is it wrong to follow it?

    • The Thinking Muslim | November 22, 2018 at 11:28 am |

      Athari creed is one of the theological schools of thought in Sunni Islam. Sometimes it is referred to as “Hanbali Creed” due to Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal being one of its leaders and many who followed him in it afterwards.

      No, there is nothing wrong with following it.

  127. Irfan Sheikh | December 7, 2018 at 10:59 am |

    Good Article. Very relevant to all times. While they peacefully lived with Star worshipers, Christians, Jews and all that, they could not stand one of their own?

    They understood that ‘Obeying One God’ entails doing away with their economics, political and religious hold on people.

    And THAT they were not willing to let go!!!

    Don’t we Muslims also do the same?

  128. Ibn Muhammad | December 14, 2018 at 5:14 am |

    Assalamua’leikum. Thanks for the comprehensive review. My question is about the Athari creed. Why are there, and how many, different types of theological schools on creed? I suppose we should unite on Aqidah too as was the case during the Prophet’s (SAW) period and the early generation of Muslims? I’m curious as I want to enroll in the school but want no characteristic affiliation. Just hoping to receive Islamic knowledge in its purest form, and from the best scholars. JazakAllah khairan.

    • The Thinking Muslim | December 15, 2018 at 8:27 am |

      WS,

      There are three main creedal schools of thought in Sunni Islam: Athari, Ashari, and Maturidi. The differences are there because the scholars from those schools differ on how to approach some of the finer details of certain theological questions in the faith, particularly Allah’s Names and Attributes. Obviously, each school considers itself the most pure and authentic form of the religion. When it comes to general fundamentals, however, the creed for all is the same (Allah is One, Muhammad (pbuh) is His Last prophet, belief in angels, day of judgement, etc.).

      The differences are inevitable because the answers to the finer details of some of the theological questions cannot be answered except by taking a particular position on it. The sahabah and the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) didn’t answer these finer detail questions because these questions came later when Islam spread and Muslims started debating with theologians of other faiths and philosophers and they started asking questions which were not asked before. The scholars of Sunni Islam recognize these three schools as a valid method of answering such questions. No other way of looking at it is permitted. There used to be some other ones but they died out. These three have survived.

      Naturally, the schools are critical of the others’ principles, methodology and conclusions. Generally, there is more difference between Athari school and the other two. The Ashari and Maturidi are quite similar to each other with slight differences, thus, less critical of each other. My advice would be to avoid the extreme polemics over this issue and not treat the others as sects but just different ways of looking at things. This way we can still view each other as part of the same ummah while respectfully disagreeing. Just know that you are there to learn the fundamentals of your faith and focus on that.

      That’s my advice so I hope that helps!

      Allah Knows Best.

  129. Thought Speaker | December 23, 2018 at 3:01 am |

    Any thoughts on the BA in Arabic program? Do you happen to know if they leave the Bayna Yadayk series? I concur, it would be good if they were to stick with them. They seem to be very thorough and less grammar heavy.

    Also, overall, would you say it was more worth it than going another route to pursue Islamic knowledge?

    JazakaAllah Kheyran.

    • The Thinking Muslim | December 24, 2018 at 3:11 pm |

      I didn’t do the BA in Arabic so I’m not sure what’s that like. You can ask them via e-mail. They do respond though they may take a while sometimes so just keep following up with them if you don’t hear anything. They also have representatives in various countries so if you have one in your country, you can contact that person directly via e-mail or phone and ask questions. Again, you can e-mail them to find out who the representative is in your country.

      I did look at the BA Arabic curriculum on the website just now and it does seem to focus on Medina books only and grammar in general. My experience with Arabic is that in the beginning you need more vocabulary especially the often used words and a little bit of grammar. You need to tattoo the oft-repeated words into your brain because they come again and again. You should be able to recall them with meaning instantly. Then you can go deeper into grammar at a gradual level. In the beginning you need to be heavy on vocabulary and light on grammar. I have some posts on this blog about tips on learning Arabic. Just search “Arabic” in the search engine. If you’re interested in self-teaching Arabic, then I have heard really good things about this 2-volume book: https://archive.org/details/AnIntroductionToTheArabicLanguageThroughIslamicTexts

      Given my circumstances (limited amount of money, can’t travel overseas, family obligations, working full time, etc.), yes it was definitely worth it for me. I’m strongly considering their Masters program as well.

      • Thought Speaker | December 29, 2018 at 12:11 am |

        I’d like to thank you for your reply! The blog post was very helpful in terms of helping me make my own decision. I’ve decided to give it a try!

        I agree with you about the importance of vocabulary in Arabic (and all languages, for that matter). I’m not really much of a grammar enthusiast, so that is going to be very hard for me to swallow, but I am going to do my best.

        If you happen to have the chance, check out Glossika. They offer about 5k worth of words in the language. It isn’t the best resource in the world, but it has helped me out tons.

        I was wondering, do you think the knowledge you have acquired from the BAIS program gave you the ability to apply it in your day-to-day life?

        • The Thinking Muslim | December 29, 2018 at 12:16 am |

          That’s great! Hope you like it! I would say it is designed for day to day because it’s focused around fundamentals.

  130. Asalamu Alaikum. I’m 19 years old and have graduated from school last year. I would really like to study at IOU but I’m not sure if it’s the right thing for my age. And I have seen a lot of bad reviews about this university saying that it’s not accredited properly and I’m really worried and don’t know whether I should apply or not. Please I need your help and advice.

    • The Thinking Muslim | January 7, 2019 at 2:31 pm |

      WS. It depends on your goals. Is your main objective a secular education or a religious education? Are you trying to seek a job after you graduate from this University or doing it for self-fulfillment? The answer depends based on your answers to these questions.

  131. Salam,

    Firstly, such a wonderful write-up and very inspiring!

    I am actually looking for a course which would help me reading and understanding the Quran. Frankly, I am not looking for any accreditation or certificate, because I want to keep my learning flexible and stress free (single mom, working full time, limited budget). So could you suggest any such online course at IOU or maybe outside IOU?

    Thanks in advance.

  132. send me list shariya sharemarket

  133. AbdulHakim Maina | January 19, 2019 at 11:49 am |

    Assalaamu alaykum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuhu

    Thank you for the objective write up.

    Just to give perspective to those who may be considering the IOU Islamic Economics Banking and Finance course, I finished with the first lot in February last year and graduated in January this year.

    I’m currently in my third semester studying for my Masters in Islamic Finance Practice (online) at INCEIF – the global university for Islamic finance, which is an AACSB-accredited post graduate university based in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. They accepted my BScIBE degree because its accredited by ICIFE, which is based in Malaysia.

    So if your goal is to proceed with your education, then I highly recommend the programme. However, I really can’t comment on job prospects because this mostly depends on your prospective employer.

    Hope this helps.

  134. I am really concerned about the “Doing Tawaaf on someone else’s behalf” mistake mentioned here, as if it’s a mistake then what is Hajj Badal?
    I would like to have answer on it.

    • The Thinking Muslim | February 18, 2019 at 10:11 am |

      There is a difference of opinion on this matter. Some scholars allow it but others don’t. The author of this piece (which is not me) follows the opinion that it is not allowed. The reason some scholars allow “Hajj Badal” and not tawaf only on someone else’s behalf because they say there is no evidence for it. Hajj and Umrah is a comprehensive worship that is a packaged deal for which there is specific evidence that the Prophet allowed it but there is no report from him (pbuh) allowing people to do tawaf alone on someone else’s behalf, they say.

      Those who allow it say that it is just like any other good deed and that because we have evidence to allow some worships to be done on someone else’s behalf (hajj, umrah, sadaqa, etc.), we can extend it to all other worships as well even when there is no specific evidence for it.

      At the end of the day, it is a debatable issue.

  135. Can I know the details of the certificate accreditation please?

  136. Md Zabed Hossain | February 17, 2019 at 1:03 am |

    Assalaamu alaykum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuhu
    I am planning to enroll in IAP course to learn Arabic and to able to read and understand Quran. Can you advise me if this course will help me to fulfill my goal.

    • The Thinking Muslim | February 18, 2019 at 10:05 am |

      I didn’t learn through their IAP course so I cannot answer that question. But I would assume it should. Do you want to try to do their FREE Arabic learning course first? It is focused on trying to make the student understand the Qur’an. It might be a good idea for you to try that first and see if you like it and see in a few months if any results come through. Here is the link: https://diploma.islamiconlineuniversity.com/opencampus/course/

  137. Is other surah is available for Download or buy?

  138. Jazakallah, what a great and reviving translation.

  139. Sharia law is the body of Islamic law. The term means “way” or “path”; it is the legal framework within which the public and some private aspects of life are regulated for those living in a legal system based on Islam.

  140. السلام علیکم ! here is a service for downloading or reading the Holy Quran with translation and tafseer for free. you can read or listen any surah of the Quran here;
    https://www.dawateislami.net/quran

  141. thank you

  142. Mohammad Sabri | April 6, 2019 at 5:58 am |

    Aslm. Your explanation is great. But I would advise you rephrase other’s translation from bring ‘boring to a better a word I.e., concise, hard to comprehend etc. You don’t want to lose your reward by practising religious pride.

  143. Arif Kabir | April 9, 2019 at 9:21 am |

    “Love of the Ansar is dates.”
    “If this is not possible, then whatever is closest to it in sweetness and meaning.”

    Both these statements made me smile. What a beautiful religion.

  144. join the diploma course (no tuition fees1yaay!) on Islamic Online University by Dr.Bilal Philips. A very thorough course covering all fundamentals and more- all straight from Qura’an and Hadith. Check it out!! You wont regret it.

  145. The People who say we will follow the Qur’an only are like those who obey God only and reject the messenger… And by turning away from the messenger peace be upon him they have turned away from a command of Allah… Any person who follows Qur’an only and tells people to do the same.. How many years did you study islam and who was your teacher?

  146. Abdulwahid Hinawy | April 26, 2019 at 7:51 am |

    Salam,
    Just a Quick to Quran ONLY followers. Alhamdulillah for realizing that Hadith are False Statements, and that the Glorious Book is the ONLY BOOK. Now, can some of you share what you have discovered in the Quran, that those who follow Hadith have NOT?. Is there a change in the Rituals you exercise now and previously? What is it really that makes you feel Apart from the Hadith Sects? Have you DECODED the ILM GHAIB? Do you now KNOW the SIGNS ALLAH SubhanaWataallah has Revealed to us? Do you know what ALLAH Subhanawataallah means when HE says: Mariam, Nuh, Yusuf, AsHabil Kahf etc etc etc are in the UNSEEN?? Are they in the UNSEEN or WERE they in Jerusalem and Nazareth and Egypt etc etc. HE Guides ..so If you have decided to take HIS BOOK, then do it all in Total Submission. HE reveals HIS ILM, all you have to do is.. LISTEN!

  147. Abdulwahid Hinawy | April 26, 2019 at 10:01 am |

    And when there comes to them a Matter of SECURITY or FEAR, they Spread it around. But if they had REFERRED it BACK to the MESSENGER or to those of authority among them, then the ONES who can DRAW Correct Conclusions from IT would have KNOWN about it. And if NOT for the Favor of ALLAH upon You and HIS Mercy, You would have followed shaitan, except for a FEW.
    Surah Nisa: 83

    Salam,
    If this Ayat was Understood and Implemented, then this World would surely have been a Peaceful Place, but that wasn’t ALLAH SubhanaWataallah’s plan. HE knew the GHAIB will NOT be Understood, and BLOODSHED will thrive, be Celebrated by One and All, Sick Hearts roaming the Valleys.
    If the Matter was reffered back to the BOOK, Al QURAN, then those with KNOWLEDGE would have prevented It. Simply because, In the BOOK’S Entire CONTENTS, there ISN’T ONE WORD HE Instructs to go “FORTH and KILL, either a Disbeliever or Muumin,” NOT ONE!!!
    The Battles ALLAH Subhanawataallah talks about are Our Creation, Our Sperm invading Our Wives Wombs, THE UNSEEN WARS!! Have you any idea the WARFARE that takes place in the Depths of the Wombs? Refer to Conception articles by Scientists, May HE guide them to a Straight Path, InShaAllah.
    Battle of Badr, Hunain, Uhud, are ALL Concepts of “HIS SIGNS” within us. HE “HIDES” HIS Message.
    Let me give you a small test. Can you explain a Single SIGN from the Quran, that the average person would NOT have Understood, ONE!! eg, “Sending the Clouds, they rain on a Barren land, it grows something of every kind”. How is THAT a SIGN for “THOSE WHO REASON”? what was the reasoning? Doesn’t Everyone Know that when it Rains, the earth comes Alive? But to HIM, its a SIGN for the Inteligent ONES. Quran is full of SIGNS, If we call ourselves MUSLIMS and do NOT know a Single Sign, surely, something is …..
    HE says Only HE and a FEW know the Number of ASHABIL KAHF, Well, was Rasulallah one of those FEW? If YES, what was their Number? If NO, then Who are the FEW? Bukhari?
    In short, what i’m advocating here is, HE, Who Created the Heavens and the Earth, has ENCODED HIS BOOK. HE Guides WHOM HE Wills, regardless of the Criteria set by MAN. ALADHINA YU’UMINUNA BIL GHAIB! You can never be Averse from HIS Verses, HIS Guidance and still claim to be a Believer, thats Wishful Thinking. Go Back to the QURAN, We have ABANDONED IT. Thats an Accusation on the Day Of Ressurection.
    Salam

  148. It is essential on each grown-up male and female Muslim to pick up knowledge.

  149. Rahmatullah | May 3, 2019 at 1:27 pm |

    Masha Allah very informative

  150. Dear Brother and Sisters, please be aware that you are dealing with internet Trolls, when they reply to you giving fatwas and slandering and in-all trying to make you look small.

    Islam is the most beautiful thing this is why our mosques are full and yes it is true men (I am a man) neglect there wife/children/house – regardless of your faith.- even I need to do more.

    Be like the prophet, give charity, work hard, pray hard, be not just a husband but a partner to your wife, do household chores, always look after orphans and the list goes on.

    To follow Islam it means to be the best to your wife and that is the best of men.

    Also do not entertain these trolls who try to reply making you question yourself, the World is waking up and seeing to get close to the creator is to submit like the way all the prophets did Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Muhammad etc (Peace and Blessings on all of them) and Islam in my opinion is the best to do that – please go see all faiths personally and make your choice :]

  151. Omar Farook | May 7, 2019 at 3:06 pm |

    There is no page opening when I click “Ruling on short selling”
    Please do the needful for short selling resources.
    Is it permissible and also day trading?

  152. Salaams, I actually read thru all the posts. Last post is spot on, there r trolls out there. Plus men who get irked by our beloved Prophet setting the standard of which they fall far below. He helped out, he is our example, so follow him, it’s simple. Spouses are spose to share. But men think oh I worked today it was so hard and then they have the audacity to question you when u say ur tired, even tho u run round after kids all day plus house work. Wouldn’t it be nice if he said to u, sit down relax I’m gonna watch the kids, u go have a long soak u deserve it. Alot of jobs these days aren’t even as tiring as back in the Prophets day. Wonder if I’ll regret working, starting soon. Ramadan is here, let’s improve our character and be good to each other. Let’s live by the Quran and the Sunnah. Allahu Alim.

  153. thanks..
    but i want to know why dont we read it SUBHA-NALLAH… just like we read quran

  154. This article is well written and informative, but I’m sure that rejecting the jilbab as a religious obligation has occurred in other areas than Egypt, and prior to the 1900s. Im no historian so I can only think of the soviet campaign against the veil after 1922 in the Azerbaijan and nearby countries. But history is not just a dichotomy between west and east. Different cultures such as China or Turkic tribes I’m sure have interpreted veiling in their own way and I hope this has involved questioning it’s validity and not just blind acceptance or force. Much of history has gone unrecorded too.

  155. Amer Ahmed | May 18, 2019 at 1:50 am |

    Thanks a lot

  156. Yushau Ahmed Mohammed | May 20, 2019 at 6:32 am |

    Please did yusha ever marry, of he did? Please what was the name of his wives or wife.

  157. Ibn Muhammad | May 23, 2019 at 11:48 am |

    Assalamua’leikum,

    Thanks for your reply to my enquiry on studying at IOU. I eventually did take the plunge, and I must say it’s been a fulfilling journey so far.

    I downloaded the resource you suggested – An Introduction to the Arabic Language through Islamic Texts by Syed Iqbal Zaheer – and couldn’t be more fascinated by the contents already. May Allah increase you in goodness.

    JazakAllah khairan wa Assalamu’aleikum warahamatullah wabarakaatuh

    • The Thinking Muslim | May 23, 2019 at 2:56 pm |

      WS warahamatullah wabarakaatuh,

      That is great to hear! May Allah make easy your journey! I’m so happy for you.

  158. its really very nice and informative hajj guide, thanks for sharing.

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